Multiple-blindfolded

[DennisStrehlau]

Okay everybody!
This is a new Thread for everything about multi-bld, wich is my absolute favourite cathegorie and i didn't find a THREAD about that...so here it is

We can write about your memo methods in multi-bld, you times in memorizing 5, 10 or more cubes, your plans for multi-bld in the next competitons, competitions where multi-bld will be or HAS TO BE and so on...

So i think and hope it will be fun for all of us and i hope that even MORE peolpe will do multi-bld at home and on competitions of course...

Have fun everybody...Greetings to all of you...Dennis

 

[Dene]

I'll start! I hope to be able to do 2 cubes BLD by the end of March!

 

[DennisStrehlau]

Great...
what's your problem by solving 2 when you can do 1?
In the beginning, my problem was, that there were the same symbols for each piece, so i was often confused...
You'll do it

 

[Swordsman Kirby]

I never really understood the power of stories... I find it even harder to memorize. I've only done 3 cubes multi-BLD.

 

[MiloD]

I did 2 cubes on my first try with visual memo which I would recommend trying just for practice....I don't know why but I felt more comfortable doing the same steps on each cube i.e. EO on cube 1 then EO on cube 2 etc....

I finished a PAO spreadsheet in excel and just need to get use to it then I can go for more cubes. I really want to come up with something I like more though. Maybe something that involves music or foods...or i can use a different system for each cube to not get confused.

I noticed all the Multi BLDers organize their cubes at the start. Are they grouping them by which piece is in the UF slot or somthing like that?

 

[DennisStrehlau]

well i also organize the cubes at the beginning...
i search for the blue/red piece, because the slot, where the blue/red has to go in, is my start-point and so i just look, if there is any cube where THIS piece is already solved ( matter what orientation it has) and the cubes, where this is the case, i put to the right (with a small space to the other cubes, as you can see on the pics for example), because i have to do one step at the beginning of the solve then and i do not have to memorize THAT step, cause i know, that this is one of the "cubes on the right"...
well I also organize cubes in one line but in two different groups ( near to me ant not THAT bear to me)...the cubes near to me are "good", cause i do not have to do 2 special steps before doing the corners after the edges, so i do not have to memorize that, too, cause i know in wich "group" they are...it's my own system and i didn't find any else cuber who did that, but i like that
Greetings...Dennis

 

[pajodaep]

@ DennisStrehlau, nice job on the belgian open 2008! btw, what method do you use in memorizing all the cubes? i've tried the roman room, but i can only get as far as 3 cubes.

 

[Karthik]

I just got my first 5/5 in this week's competition.This was my second attempt at 5 cubes.First was 3/5 with misoriented edges.I use PAO for memo.

 

[DennisStrehlau]

Well when i memorize the cubes, i use a story...sometimes VERY long, when there are 16 cubes for example (my best and most that i ever tried)...so the story goes from one cube to the other, without a stop...but i know, when one cube is solved and then move on to the next...i do that, because it is easier than memorizing many small stories, cause you coul forget the beginning of a "new" story...it works great for me

 

[alexc]

Hey Dennis,

Congratulations on that 10/10 multi bld! I am also very interested in multi bld. I just need to put in the center caps to my new DIY and I can try two cubes. I am going to order another DIY soon, so I can then try three. I hope to one day do around ten, more if I can handle it.

Alex

 

[alexc]

Sorry for the double post, but how do you use stories Dennis? Do you use a PAO system and make it into a story or do you use letter pair images or whatever? What's your execution method, too? Thanks!

 

[Pedro]

well, I've done 3 and 4 successfully, both videos on youtube (my channel -> http://www.youtube.com/user/PedroSG)

I tried 5 just once or twice...wasn't very far, but some mistakes here and there...

I use the Major System for CP and PA for the edges

need to do it more often(again)...before I got 3, I was doing like almost a try per day...now it's ben a few weeks since my last try

 

[DennisStrehlau]

well for every piece there are images and those images, i put into a story...
for example one piece is "buggy" and the next is table-->a buggy drives over a table to a...and so on...
my execution method is the pochmann-method, not M2, i mean the
T-Permutation...also pochmann-corners...

@pedro: go on with multi-bld...wasn't it fun for you?

Greetings...Dennis

 

[Jacco]

I'm quite new into (multi)blind solving, I've done about 4 attempts at 2 cubes multiblind, none of them succeeded (best attempt was 1 solved, other cube 2 edges switched). Perhaps it is because of my very inefficient memory method.
Dennis, I'm gonna try using images for pieces too, it sounds very interesting!

 

[Pedro]

@pedro: go on with multi-bld...wasn't it fun for you?

Greetings...Dennis

yeah, it's a lot of fun to take off the blindfold and see all those cubes solved

it's just that I'm being lazy recently...now I'm in vacation, so I'll work on it more

 

[DennisStrehlau]

@jacco: yes, the story-method is really a great method i think...everybody will see, wich method is the right for himself, so you'll see...
Good luck!

@pedro:yes, that's what i mean...taking off the blindfold and see ALL cubes solved Maybe wee meet in a competition one day, i hope so

Greetings...Dennis

 

[alexc]

Hello again,

I have decided to try your story method, Dennis, for regular and multi bld. When you say you have images for each piece, how many images were you talking about? You aren't like Matyas (500+ images per piece) are you? I'm thinking maybe 5-10 images per piece? Also, if you have the same piece but on different cubes do you use a different image for each one to avoid confusion?

 

[DennisStrehlau]

@alexc: HI i have different images for each piece, but i do not know, how many images i have for each piece. i also invent new images for the pieces while memorizing, you can do that, if you have many images for a piece...for example: one image is water and when it dosn't make any sence in the story, so it is hard to memorize, i invent a surfboard, cause when i solve the cube later, i know: aha, that must be the piece for water, cause it is nearly the same...same enough, to know what piece it stands for, you know
so i do not have to have many images, cause i can just invent new ones

Greetings...Dennis

 

[alexc]

Ok, yeah that makes sense.

 

[AvGalen]

I don't really like mutli-blind because I am not good at regular blind. 1 cube takes me over 5 minutes, 2 cubes over 20 minutes and 3 cubes took me 50 minutes (with small errors, never succesfull)

My first succesfull competition blindfold was 2/2 on multi-blind. I had tried (8) regular blind attempts, but none were succesfull. It got me the Dutch NR and the nr 7 rank on the WCA last year. Now, everybody is much better and I haven't improved

I am going to use this tactic:
I do the multi-blind on the weekly competition every week. If I get them all, I will do one more the next week. Hopefully I can do 10 by the end of this year.

I think I will change methods pretty soon because I do Orient edges, Orient Corners, Permute Corners, Permute Edges and that means I have more info to memorize than a "non-orient-first" solver.

I don't have a real memory system. I just use whatever comes up to memorize. Sometimes that's numbers, sometimes it's letters/words, sometimes it's visual...