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Mr.Toad's Fifteen puzzle with timer (modified by stannic)

stannic

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4x4 ao500 11.957, 100.120 moves, mo500 11.962, 100.174 moves @ 8.374 mtps

could be sub 100 moves if not 497th solve

best single 6.181, 53 moves
best ao5 9.092 (466), 79.000 (464)
best mo10 9.892 (464), 86.8 (464)
best ao12 10.006 (462), 87.4 (460)
best ao50 11.145 (425), 95.250
best ao100 11.317 (381), 97.949 (182)

11.519, 11.043, 16.109, 12.866, 12.754, 14.966, 14.325, 13.396, 11.007, 9.560, 12.794, 10.246, 12.353, 9.980, 14.213, 8.545, 13.854, 14.769, 7.897, 10.401, 15.148, 10.480, 13.851, 9.702, 13.954, 11.777, 14.628, 12.524, 12.711, 10.770, 10.759, 11.531, 8.897, 13.963, 12.209, 11.687, 17.238, 15.320, 9.920, 9.805, 12.542, 12.894, 13.568, 11.776, 15.187, 10.526, 9.511, 10.701, 13.322, 12.800, 8.890, 10.736, (20.408), 10.321, 8.710, 18.290, 15.064, 10.863, 7.098, 14.227, 10.651, 10.353, 12.188, 12.995, 10.009, 12.872, 12.979, 12.799, 13.471, 11.072, 17.902, 13.657, 13.924, 11.250, 12.939, 14.356, 10.248, 14.646, 11.163, 12.240, 13.963, 15.738, 10.347, 8.585, 12.547, 12.846, 12.467, 14.423, 13.056, 11.344, 15.611, 11.200, 10.665, 15.437, 11.029, 12.499, 9.598, 10.276, 10.125, 12.097, 10.974, 9.571, 11.533, 14.886, 11.044, 10.386, 10.612, 9.904, 17.000, 8.752, 10.384, 14.214, 12.935, 11.924, 10.573, 13.610, 8.534, 14.066, 13.783, 12.848, 11.778, 12.574, 13.944, 8.574, 11.042, 12.884, 9.648, 10.488, 12.364, 10.641, 14.255, 12.112, 11.234, 15.141, 11.912, 12.334, 14.193, 9.134, 10.669, 15.193, 15.257, 13.693, 11.363, 15.302, 11.821, 13.566, 9.673, 13.272, 11.782, 10.327, 12.499, 10.941, 12.518, 13.267, 10.813, 11.390, 9.920, 14.148, 11.982, 8.524, 11.898, 9.426, 9.787, 9.138, 12.677, 15.580, 14.480, 8.049, 16.175, 9.565, 14.101, 14.982, 9.914, 11.547, 15.163, 13.485, 15.332, 11.383, 9.859, 11.725, 14.359, 13.201, 11.305, 12.947, 8.699, 11.155, 10.117, 14.056, 10.587, 11.912, 8.856, 9.020, 10.021, 9.666, 11.498, 11.247, 9.206, 11.464, 6.852, 11.981, 9.321, 13.140, 16.547, 12.820, 9.223, 11.111, 10.235, 10.803, 10.205, 9.876, 8.992, 14.084, 13.577, 11.918, 14.090, 11.154, 12.766, 9.256, 11.608, 16.529, 8.827, 9.067, 10.960, 9.924, 17.614, 10.708, 10.732, 12.164, 8.874, 11.774, 13.968, 13.658, 19.893, 8.431, 8.338, 10.881, 10.420, 11.947, 14.676, 14.286, 10.294, 11.649, 14.226, 14.675, 12.790, 14.073, 12.419, 14.007, 15.213, 13.983, 13.168, 12.132, 12.394, 10.465, 16.961, 14.295, 11.005, 10.409, 12.240, 10.594, 11.259, 15.016, 7.144, 9.706, 15.100, 13.894, 11.263, 12.264, 13.320, 13.778, 9.641, 8.557, 11.414, 12.680, 12.317, 11.089, 10.985, 9.946, 12.607, 11.637, 10.687, 12.530, 13.568, 12.858, 10.684, 10.238, 12.802, 12.006, 12.728, 13.053, 13.854, 11.385, 11.321, 9.265, 10.190, 10.641, 10.796, 11.745, 11.301, 10.558, 17.026, 13.857, 10.445, 16.757, 12.816, 12.072, 16.971, 13.361, 13.734, 13.237, 8.546, 8.134, 11.020, 11.956, 14.151, 9.767, 11.807, 14.469, 13.128, 14.276, 13.255, 11.036, 13.102, 13.315, 10.943, 13.138, 11.826, 11.475, 15.896, 14.058, 9.776, 11.445, 11.715, 12.252, 10.662, 11.170, 10.010, 10.181, 13.231, 13.556, 15.986, 15.010, 13.439, 12.363, 10.529, 16.350, 15.147, 14.341, 11.157, 9.453, 9.322, 11.515, 10.786, 11.570, 12.922, 11.324, 13.199, 11.990, 10.048, 10.964, 12.786, 10.606, 14.861, 11.999, 10.708, 15.735, 14.856, 9.822, 11.708, 10.201, 9.314, 14.268, 12.398, 11.618, 15.390, 14.566, 14.836, 11.448, 11.976, 11.044, 10.959, 8.368, 13.294, 11.813, 8.784, 8.994, 14.517, 10.298, 6.869, 13.266, 13.972, 10.265, 10.613, 10.268, 13.613, 10.086, 11.036, 10.747, 13.990, 9.209, 7.318, 15.829, 9.845, 12.547, 10.722, 11.471, 9.439, 12.259, 16.239, 10.155, 11.362, 13.929, 10.707, 10.241, 9.983, 10.585, 8.419, 12.724, 12.917, 10.647, 13.126, 14.085, 13.166, 12.718, 9.370, 13.498, 13.681, 12.419, 10.200, 10.842, 11.134, 9.037, 8.418, 14.568, 11.063, 15.331, 10.142, 10.767, 8.890, 10.693, 9.136, 11.267, 11.147, 10.882, 12.113, 11.217, 8.610, 11.503, 11.286, 12.218, (6.181), 12.901, 12.402, 15.820, 12.424, 15.757, 13.661, 11.924, 10.938, 10.262, 11.133, 9.009, 13.865, 10.026, 10.656, 9.361, 7.871, 8.330, 11.839, 9.586, 9.931, 10.800, 10.519, 12.323, 10.705, 14.520, 14.530, 13.428, 11.757, 8.240, 13.625, 13.597, 10.872, 12.559, 13.145, 10.018, 11.796, 10.308, 8.057, 9.013, 10.313, 13.978, 9.263, 9.196, 13.570, 13.141, 20.185, 10.642, 12.612, 14.876
79, 83, 118, 99, 92, 115, 121, 108, 85, 72, 99, 82, 96, 79, 109, 69, 103, 120, 61, 87, 112, 90, 107, 80, 113, 101, 116, 111, 110, 96, 86, 94, 70, 113, 105, 99, 143, 121, 84, 80, 96, 102, 112, 95, 122, 88, 76, 93, 108, 111, 80, 84, 167, 94, 77, 147, 124, 94, 57, 117, 86, 78, 93, 106, 80, 116, 112, 105, 106, 95, 125, 105, 101, 89, 108, 113, 84, 107, 92, 109, 105, 130, 88, 75, 115, 112, 107, 124, 115, 91, 133, 92, 92, 116, 90, 103, 74, 91, 84, 103, 93, 82, 97, 123, 96, 85, 83, 85, 149, 79, 85, 122, 114, 103, 78, 116, 63, 116, 113, 110, 98, 106, 115, 74, 91, 111, 84, 100, 105, 94, 121, 100, 93, 125, 103, 100, 115, 78, 92, 122, 120, 112, 96, 120, 97, 114, 87, 102, 99, 96, 103, 99, 98, 111, 97, 101, 91, 115, 98, 71, 97, 75, 82, 88, 117, 122, 129, 72, 137, 74, 119, 122, 90, 104, 110, 103, 117, 97, 92, 105, 121, 107, 99, 114, 72, 96, 87, 107, 91, 97, 84, 76, 88, 90, 110, 100, 84, 98, 59, 118, 83, 102, 134, 108, 78, 107, 89, 96, 88, 82, 83, 123, 116, 108, 107, 89, 101, 73, 98, 134, 73, 79, 95, 95, 143, 90, 88, 103, 74, 98, 119, 105, 141, 65, 71, 91, 87, 101, 118, 120, 93, 98, 121, 114, 110, 117, 103, 106, 121, 103, 94, 98, 103, 87, 126, 112, 95, 81, 99, 80, 98, 117, 57, 71, 119, 113, 94, 94, 103, 116, 83, 71, 94, 107, 98, 95, 96, 80, 107, 95, 98, 107, 121, 109, 94, 88, 107, 102, 107, 103, 110, 97, 102, 79, 77, 96, 101, 112, 99, 87, 137, 110, 84, 131, 98, 107, 144, 108, 116, 122, 74, 73, 96, 104, 109, 83, 106, 124, 109, 126, 106, 96, 105, 104, 101, 108, 101, 95, 118, 115, 94, 99, 109, 101, 87, 100, 93, 78, 108, 121, 130, 120, 118, 95, 87, 110, 113, 121, 92, 81, 77, 97, 86, 95, 102, 94, 105, 106, 87, 88, 106, 92, 125, 101, 89, 133, 117, 90, 95, 85, 83, 114, 101, 95, 108, 111, 119, 102, 92, 95, 92, 75, 112, 105, 78, 82, 125, 81, 62, 116, 121, 89, 94, 84, 117, 93, 101, 96, 120, 81, 72, 135, 87, 108, 98, 103, 81, 97, 99, 91, 104, 117, 88, 92, 86, 87, 76, 108, 112, 98, 110, 118, 110, 102, 86, 111, 118, 107, 91, 100, 95, 81, 74, 124, 101, 131, 86, 96, 75, 104, 80, 112, 103, 99, 111, 106, 81, 109, 101, 117, (53), 104, 105, 129, 107, 122, 125, 108, 100, 92, 94, 75, 119, 84, 98, 82, 65, 71, 105, 86, 87, 101, 89, 108, 96, 115, 125, 82, 111, 72, 129, 119, 85, 114, 110, 86, 108, 94, 69, 82, 92, 118, 77, 83, 120, 112, (174), 94, 111, 123
5x5 sub-28: mo10 26.853, ao5 25.274, ao12 27.320, ao50 27.977, single 21.159
6x6 sub-51: mo10 49.296, ao5 47.630, ao12 50.086, single 40.297
 
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stannic

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It's saving Ao50 now, but not Ao100. Here is a picture that shows what it looks like: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B4kZ4FB24GmnWHowUExiMFdwa28 I'm assuming the different colours for the PB's mean something.
Ok, I see. Please read this post. Edit: sorry, link fixed.

Most likely the problem is that you're using from time to time Live XXX color scheme and/or pressing Escape to cancel some solve. Each time you're do so, the "Official" counter resets to the 0 (on your picture, it's 12, although you've done 224 solves). To get "official" PB (and so it will be saved), you need to do only official solves (in other words, do not use Live color schemes and do not press Escape to cancel solve even if it veeery failed).

On your picture, Ao50 and Ao100 PBs are blood-red, which means they are not official. They will not be saved, you need to do 50 or 100 consecutive official solves to get Ao50/A0100 saved.

Also, your Best Mo10 is cyan which means that it was reached just now. Sorry if this was not clear.

Please try to do >= 100 official solves and see if your Ao100 PB will be saved.

- stannic
 
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Ohh... I knew about the cyan, just not the red. The main reason I stop in between a solve is because I royally mess up (mainly when I'm not concentrating) or wheh I have to stop to do something else. Could you have a button to turn the official counter off, or a button to delete particular solves (like PPT) without resetting the official counter?

EDIT: 17.295 official Ao100.
 
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Could you have a button to turn the official counter off, or a button to delete particular solves (like PPT) without resetting the official counter?
I assume that you mean the button to exclude some messed up solve from the stats. If so, then I could do so. However, the main reason why I've implemented "official" feature was to prevent intentional or unintentional lowering PBs by cancelling some bad solves in progress, when it's clear that it has failed. The idea is to have saved only "real" PBs without any "removed" solves.

Do you think such button is really needed?

To all: Do you think this "only official" feature need to be removed / changed / something else?

7x7-2x2 relay
1:28.881, 57.303, 26.237, 16.060, 4.934, 0.917 = 3:14.332
661, 432, 209, 110, 33, 6 = 1451
mtps 7.467

Nice coincidence, previous PB movecount for 7x7-2x2 relay was also 1451 = 708, 429, 164, 98, 41, 11. Previous time was 3:52.271, though.
3x2 puzzle ao1000 1.437 sec / 14.717 moves @ 10.230 mtps
best ao5 0.295/4.667, mo10 0.897/9.6, ao12 0.913/9.9, ao50 1.159/12.500, ao100 1.280/13.449
3x2 ao1000 1.376 / 14.681 @ 10.659
ao5, mo10, ao12, ao50, ao100 (time/moves): 0.281 / 4.667, 0.771 / 9.2, 0.877 / 9.9, 1.073 / 12.438, 1.170 / 13.337
Another question: What kind of plain-text format is better to output stats (two possibilities are above, in Edit 2 and Edit 3)? I'm thinking of changing the way to output stats because there are too many averages (and I'm planning to add more :p). On the another side, the information need to be displayed in the most simple way (simple to read / copy / process / etc.)

What do you think?

Edit 4: Just in case I disappear for awhile, sorry guys, I have some more important things to do.

I'll be back :p Please keep posting any bugs/suggestions.

In addition to questions above, bumping old question:

The question I think about: how to show the ranges of the best ao5/ao12/ao50/ao100/mo10 in text format? It's possible to use bold, italic, underline and color for 4 various averages, but I can't think of a way to show 5 or more averages.

One way is to generate some html/js code with the possibility to show the best average by clicking some button (by clicking the button "Ao5", the best ao5 will be selected with, say, bold font, etc.)
I'm still thinking if there is a way to show all averages without additional controls ("all-in-one").

The idea is to output instead of plain-text some BB or HTML code that can be copy/pasted directly to the forum or website.
- stannic
 
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With the offline version, is there any way to make it save the control scheme n stuff? it saves pbs but nothing else.
The bug is replicated. It is because Chrome intentionally disables cookies on things like file:// (local webpages). In other browsers, it seems to work normally. I'll use localStorage in future versions to save settings, just as it is used for PBs. Thanks for reporting this.

Could you make it so it saves tps pbs as well as time and movecount?

edit: also I dunrike the official solve thingy because iwannause livefringe
I think yes for tps pbs. As for official solve thing, I will probably remove it if nobody cares. I just thought Live schemes are very helpful in solving large puzzles.

I may save separate PBs with and without using Live color schemes if anyone cares (just as with Scramble Type). It will take some additional space but still is acceptable.

Also, I may add select box / checkbox to turn on/off saving PBs as replacement for the "Official" feature.

The new version will be uploaded as soon as I find the time to finish it. Sorry for delay.

- stannic
 
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PasteHTML seems to have very poor uptime. This happens every week or so.
 

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It looks like all online versions are down, since the main site for them is also down.
PasteHTML seems to have very poor uptime. This happens every week or so.
Sorry for that. I'll look for good alternatives to PasteHTML, then I'll update (edit) this comment.

Update: I've moved pages from PasteHTML to my website, links in the OP are updated. Please check if there are any problems with online timer.

latest online version, index, home
 
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I noticed that the Multi colors aren't being cached... what I mean is, every time it wants to know what color a tile is, there is a separate call to my getColors function. Instead of doing that it would be faster to store the colors in an array (e.g. multiColors) when we change the puzzle coloring or size, and then instead of calling getColors(n,i) calling multiColors.


Edit from 20 hours later: 20x20 sliding puzzle in 49:13.555 (18507 moves). I ended up modifying the program to not show the timer and movecount as it was going, because with the window size and piece size I wanted it kept wiggling the puzzle around. Maybe having those off could be an option?
 
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Bump. Please get rid of, or rename, the "Official" concept in your sim ASAP. In the cubing community, the word does not mean what it think it means, so using it wrong will only lead to confusion and annoyance. I would suggest just adding a DNF when someone escapes out of the solve, and then allowing averages to have at most one DNF (which would count as the worst solve).
 
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