Mefferts or eastsheen? (4x4x4)

[MangoTangoFox]

Look, The DX tiled 4x4, the mefferts, the C4U 4x4:

THEY'RE ALL THE SAME.
They Come from the exact same factory.

Where did you learn that?

Exactly, they may look EXTREMELY similar, but the texture on the tiles is different, and the Mefferts one has a horrible bumpy feeling when you turn it. The clefferts is much more smooth and even. I have no clue about the DX 4x4, it is a copy of the mefferts, but is it a better copy like the clefferts?

 

[Unknown.soul]

"Cleffert's" (the real name is QJ) = DX 4x4 and 5x5

 

[MangoTangoFox]

"Cleffert's" (the real name is QJ) = DX 4x4 and 5x5

Thats nice to know, but aren't they almost the same prices excluding shipping?
And I actually knew that, but its more commonly referred to as Clefferts.
When you buy one it has a hole cut out of the box in the shape of "QJ"

 

[Vulosity]

Clefferts is a copy of the Mefferts Cube, and its made by Cube For You.
(Copy Mefferts = Clefferts)
Look at MonkeyDude1313's 4x4 comparison, there is no comparison.
Monkeydude's videos are interesting, but some of his information is wrong. He just happened to get a crappy Mefferts 4x4. My Mefferts is nothing like his.

"Cleffert's" (the real name is QJ) = DX 4x4 and 5x5 QJ is also the manufacturer, right?

Thats nice to know, but aren't they almost the same prices excluding shipping? Yes, and DX offers free shipping. Cube4you shipping is really expensive. I'd rather order Clefferts (that term is starting to get annoying now) from DX.

 

[IamWEB]

If the Clefferts are so good, why did it take them 9 pages just to be mentioned? Are there video reviews of these, solves, averages?

 

[MangoTangoFox]

Clefferts is a copy of the Mefferts Cube, and its made by Cube For You.
(Copy Mefferts = Clefferts)
Look at MonkeyDude1313's 4x4 comparison, there is no comparison.
Monkeydude's videos are interesting, but some of his information is wrong. He just happened to get a crappy Mefferts 4x4. My Mefferts is nothing like his.

"Cleffert's" (the real name is QJ) = DX 4x4 and 5x5 QJ is also the manufacturer, right?

Thats nice to know, but aren't they almost the same prices excluding shipping? Yes, and DX offers free shipping. Cube4you shipping is really expensive. I'd rather order Clefferts (that term is stating to get annoying now) from DX.

Im not sure QJ truly is the manufacturer, I mean for all we know it may be just the box they chose.
Yea I love MonkeyDude's vids.
He hasn't made any good ones recently, but he is working on a collection video, and he is waiting to get 100 cubes for a 100 cube relay, and i think hes pretty close at the moment.
People have told him that his is crappy, but still, its a big price jump for little difference.

 

[MangoTangoFox]

If the Clefferts are so good, why did it take them 9 pages just to be mentioned? Are there video reviews of these, solves, averages?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsLjgKujNMk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8oYH0d8SOM

But the bad stuff he says about the Mefferts is supposedly untrue.
SO they should be about the same quality, but the Clefferts (QJ) is cheaper.

 

[Unknown.soul]

I know for a fact that QJ is the manufacturer of these (both on DX and C4U, the equals sign implied they are the same cubes). The name "Cleffert's" is redundant; we don't call knockoff Void cubes "Centosha" Void.

 

[MangoTangoFox]

I know for a fact that QJ is the manufacturer of these (both on DX and C4U, the equals sign implied they are the same cubes). The name "Cleffert's" is redundant; we don't call knockoff Void cubes "Centosha" Void.

Okay Okay, Its not really a big deal, I didnt come up with the name...
So if you buy it from dx, the box says QJ on it?

 

[IamWEB]

I'm almost convinced to buy a 'Clefferts' instead, since they seem so amazing, but still...
The Mefferts he has just sucks compared to many other reviews/videos of it. Mefferts are still great, but if the Clefferts are STILL better than that, yes, I'll buy them.
Well, the added bonus of buying C4Y's 4x4x4 is that I could also get an ES 2x2x2 with the money I save, because I currently only have a (fallen apart) Ice Cube.

 

[jcuber]

How could the C4Y or DX 4x4's be better than mefferts if they are the exact same mech? Perhaps the problem here is that few expect good things from a knockoff, and when it turns out to be better than they though, they make a video. People wanted info on the mefferts, so many people made videos.

 

[chuckster2.0]

Does eastsheen or mefferts have spring mechanisms for the 4x4x4?

No, they don't.

Does any 4x4x4 cube have a spring mechanism?

 

[Horst2104]

Hi,
the core of my ES 4x4 just broke, after only 2.5 month of use :/
i think its because i dropped it on the floor 2 or 3 times, so 3 sides got loose during 2-3 solves. i fixed that as well as the broken part with superglue, but i spend more time to fix it than with cubing the last days, and that sucks. i tried a mefferts once, i was not used to the tiles, but the cube itself felt very stable.
gonna order one in the next days...
mfg
manu

EDIT:
it broke 2 more times -.- i need a new cube
is there noone who can produce eastsheen cores out of aluminium ?

 

[Unknown.soul]

i tried a mefferts once, i was not used to the tiles, but the cube itself felt very stable.

Either take off the tiles or order the stickered Meffert's clone from C4U:
Black
White

 

[rcnrcn927]

I've heard Mefferts is better, but the tiles are illegal for competitions. If you could get a stickered mefferts or put cubesmith tiles on it, go for it.

 

[rcnrcn927]

Or if you're willing to order from Cube4you, get a "New 4x4 (With or without tiles)"

 

[Vulosity]

Or if you're willing to order from Cube4you, get a "New 4x4 (With or without tiles)"

If you are going to get it with tiles, according to you, they will also be illegal.

Stop posting that Meffert's tiles are illegal. THEY ARE NOT! What's wrong with you?

 

[puzzlemaster]

I've heard Mefferts is better, but the tiles are illegal for competitions. If you could get a stickered mefferts or put cubesmith tiles on it, go for it.

learn to know what you're talking about... mefferts tiles can only be considered illegal during blindsolving as the corners have mefferts engraved into them...

 

[//CuBeFrEaK//]

I dont have a Meffert's but my ES is good enough

 

[daniel0731ex]

http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8299