[Unofficial] Maskow: 3x3 BLD 16.77

[EMI]

^ Has been done before too lazy to look for a video though. I don't know what you mean with getting away from it, as it is totally legit

 

[tseitsei]

Wait.. so in an official comp you could just memo a BLD solve during 2H inspection and sub 11 the solve?
If you didn't wear a blindfold and made it look like a normal solve you could probably get away with it xD

Get away with what exactly? Doing bld during normal solves is perfectly acceptable... (Although not that advicable if you are not world class fast since you'll slow down the comp. But in Maskows case that is perfectly legit and within regulations). So what is it exactly that he should get away with??

 

[Tao Yu]

Get away with what exactly? Doing bld during normal solves is perfectly acceptable... (Although not that advicable if you are not world class fast since you'll slow down the comp. But in Maskows case that is perfectly legit and within regulations). So what is it exactly that he should get away with??

Well...

A1c) A competitor participating in an event must be able to fulfil the event's requirements (e.g. know how to solve the puzzle). A competitor must not compete with expectation of a DNF result or an intentionally poor result. Penalty: disqualification of the attempt (DNF) or disqualification from the event (see Regulation 2j), at the discretion of the WCA Delegate.

Even with Maskow's speed, doing a BLD solve would still be "solving with the expectation of an intentionally poor result", since his normal sighted average is obviously faster than his BLD execution average. So it would be against the regulations. It's at the discretion of the delegate though, so maybe it would be allowed.

 

[tseitsei]

Well...



Even with Maskow's speed, doing a BLD solve would still be "solving with the expectation of an intentionally poor result", since his normal sighted average is obviously faster than his BLD execution average. So it would be against the regulations. It's at the discretion of the delegate though, so maybe it would be allowed.

So you are saying I can't solve with roux at my next comp since I am 4-5s slower with that than with CFOP?

That can't be right... Besides it would be impossible for anyone to prove that roux isn't my fastest method (or that BLD execution wouldn't be the fastest possible execution method for someone...) So I would still say it is perfectly fine

 

[Tao Yu]

So you are saying I can't solve with roux at my next comp since I am 4-5s slower with that than with CFOP?

That can't be right... Besides it would be impossible for anyone to prove that roux isn't my fastest method (or that BLD execution wouldn't be the fastest possible execution method for someone...) So I would still say it is perfectly fine

Hmm. Makes sense. Actually, looking at this clarification in the WCA guidelines, it seems this rule is only meant to be used to "prevent competitors from being a severe detriment to the competition". So I guess neither maskow doing a BLD solve or you doing a roux solve would really fall into that category.

Looking at this post, it does look like "Solving a puzzle while imposing unnecessary restrictions" is something that they wanted to stop though.

 

[Ronxu]

Hmm. Makes sense. Actually, looking at this clarification in the WCA guidelines, it seems this rule is only meant to be used to "prevent competitors from being a severe detriment to the competition". So I guess neither maskow doing a BLD solve or you doing a roux solve would really fall into that category.

Looking at this post, it does look like "Solving a puzzle while imposing unnecessary restrictions" is something that they wanted to stop though.

= people trying to get 9:59.99

 

[Tao Yu]

= people trying to get 9:59.99

Yeah, that's in the github link I posted: "Intentionally letting timer run to get poor results" (along with a load of other situations which can get you a DNF).

But yeah, I think I misjudged the strictness of that regulation. I realise now that it's only for severe cases.

 

[thelunarbros]

Even with Maskow's speed, doing a BLD solve would still be "solving with the expectation of an intentionally poor result", since his normal sighted average is obviously faster than his BLD execution average. So it would be against the regulations. It's at the discretion of the delegate though, so maybe it would be allowed.

Chris Olson did one of his 2x2 round BLD and got away with it. However I wouldn't do it personally, as even though Maskow gets many successes, he still gets a few DNFs.

 

[Tao Yu]

Chris Olson did one of his 2x2 round BLD and got away with it. However I wouldn't do it personally, as even though Maskow gets many successes, he still gets a few DNFs.

That was before that regulation came into place. It's an interesting case though, because I don't think it slowed him down at all. I seem to remember he got a 2.3x average?

 

[Isaac Lai]

That was before that regulation came into place. It's an interesting case though, because I don't think it slowed him down at all. I seem to remember he got a 2.3x average?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WDgv8FZlpc

In this case they were the counting times so it really shouldn't matter

 

[G2013]

I remember how excited I was when people started getting memo times sub-"WCA 15 Second Inspection". Now here's a blindsolve in which the entirety of it is one second over that. Ridiculous.





Poland?

Mars?

 

[cmhardw]

Congrats, Maskow! That is amazing!

 

[Selkie]

Just awesome :tu