Maru Screw/Spring DIY 2x2 review

daniel0731ex said:
Konsta said:
Nice review, I ordered 2 of them excatly a week ago from popbuying (yeah, before I even received my $70 order from popbuying :p).
I also bought 1 LL 2x2, because it was pretty cheap and ES with screws/springs didn't sound bad at all :)
In this $70 order of mine, I also got DianSheng screw/spring 2x2 and I really don't find anything bad about it.
After setting the tension a bit looser, it cuts corners very nicely.
It appears to be excatly like ES, but with 3 screws/springs in it.

What I'm trying to say here is that,
if the DianSheng is pure crap (http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showpost.php?p=260749&postcount=71)
and LL should be better and Maru is like godly,
I can't wait to get my hands on it! :cool:
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i guess i made a mistake then

i think the crap-2x2 is from Dealextreme, not the ones from dealperfect :P


i got confused with this:
http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16021
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That is the DS 2x2(?), but on that video, tension seems to be pretty tight like it was at the beginning in my cube too.
This is from that thread: http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showpost.php?p=247111&postcount=6

I ordered from DX one type of screw/spring 2x2, that broke instantly.
It had screws/springs built in the corner pieces, not in the core.
 
Kian said:
I ordered two from popbuying last week. I'm excited for it to come even though I don't really practice 2x2 or care much for it right now. Maybe this will peak my interest.
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For me, it most certainly did. I kinda regretted cramming 40 CLL algs into my head to find out I hate my Eastsheen.

But after getting maru I just couldn't keep my hands off it :D For the past 2 days I have only been practising 2x2 and I just enjoy how it feels...to be performing algs with confidence. Okay that's probably over-advertising.
 
amostay2004 said:
Kian said:
I ordered two from popbuying last week. I'm excited for it to come even though I don't really practice 2x2 or care much for it right now. Maybe this will peak my interest.
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For me, it most certainly did. I kinda regretted cramming 40 CLL algs into my head to find out I hate my Eastsheen.

But after getting maru I just couldn't keep my hands off it :D For the past 2 days I have only been practising 2x2 and I just enjoy how it feels...to be performing algs with confidence. Okay that's probably over-advertising.
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Wow, I'm really looking forward to receiving mine now. My ES is imo pretty awesome, but...
Is it fast? there isn't too much inner friction is there? I need to be able to get like 10tps+ :)
 
Escher said:
Wow, I'm really looking forward to receiving mine now. My ES is imo pretty awesome, but...
Is it fast? there isn't too much inner friction is there? I need to be able to get like 10tps+ :)
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It's definitely not as fast as an Eastsheen, in fact I'd say it's not even nearly as fast, maybe due to the tightness of the springs. It's a plus point for me that it's not that fast, because my ES is hard to control.

But honestly, for those who get sub-3 averages with ES, I doubt the maru would be that much better, if it's any better at all. I can't be too sure of this though cos I'm no where near pro speed. I just think if you can go that fast with an ES, a maru wouldn't probably bring much improvement.

EDIT: I suppose it could go much faster if you set a looser tension than mine, but that would increase the chance of internal popping as described below.
 
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amostay2004 said:
DavidWoner said:
rachmaninovian said:
lol i think maru 2x2s are just v-cube 2 knockoffs..seriously xD

waiting for mine to come.
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It's not. At all really...
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The design is actually quite similar. I'd say the internal core and pieces are similar to the v-cube design while the cubies are similar to the Eastsheen design, so it's a kind of hybrid :)
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It's not like there are tons of unique ways to make a good 2x2, obviously all 3x3+Shells designs are going to be very similar. But it looks to me like the v-2 corners are one solid piece, not an arm and a shell. Also the v2 does not appear to have a corner permanently attached to the core, like an ES or Maru 2x2 would. Sure, the edge pieces are more rounded, but that's a step in an obvious direction. anyway, all Eastsheen models seem to have very angular parts (very little rounding). So this is basically an ES with springs and a nicer core, with more rounded parts.
 
Sorry to double post but I think this deserves a post of its own instead of an edit.

After playing with the maru for 2 days there is one major flaw that I notice. The small internal pieces (the oval shaped ones) get misaligned sometimes and it pops out of alignment. Some sort of internal pop :p And it's a hassle to fix cos you'd have to take out 2 cubies and I'm not very fond of popping cubies out because the plastic that clicks the cubies into place is very fragile. It doesn't happen that often (probably once in 100 solves) but it is annoying.

Then again, this probably won't happen if I didn't loosen the screws. So if you like the tension out of the box, then there's no need to worry :)

I hope I made sense, I really suck at describing things, damn!
 
daniel0731ex said:
yeah the bad one is from DX.


found it:

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.18286
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My cube was black, but I honestly don't remember what color did I order back then. But the price seems to be right.
Btw, I just changed my ES cubies to this DS 2x2 and OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG!!! :eek::eek::eek::D
It should be illegal how good this cube feels now. DS pieces locked up a bit, but that didn't bother before I changed these ES cubies in.
This cube feel no less than godly now! :cool:
Get it, do it.
If Maru tops this cube, I don't know what will happen.
I'll probably start practising 2x2 like there's no tomorrow.
 
When the rest of you guys get yours in the mail, bump the thread and let the rest of us know how they are please. :D
If most people agree that they're pretty baller, I'll most definitely order one. :)
 
Edward said:
Is it just me, or does it seem like he didn't even review the cube?

I might have missed something.
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Your definition of review has been affected by what runs rampant on youtube. I do not want to see some 12 year old ramble on about how great it is. I want to see the inside of it, I want to see what its like in slomo, and I want to see what its like while being solved by someone reasonably good. Watching his solves at the end answered all my questions about turning speed, lockups, and tendency to +2.

Great job amos.
 
In the first time ever I saw the maru 2x2, it seem to be very good with these screw/spring mechanism.
And it really is :P
Nice review.
 
I'm not sure whether or not I'll get one. They look good, but I don't really know if it would be significantly better than my screw-spring ES. It's hard to tell from the video.
 
JTW2007 said:
I'm not sure whether or not I'll get one. They look good, but I don't really know if it would be significantly better than my screw-spring ES. It's hard to tell from the video.
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where did u buy this screw-spring ES , I have never seen it :confused:
 
Lan-Lan 2x2=screw-spring eastsheen with not-as-good-as-eastsheen quality pieces and superior screws and springs than DS 2x2
 
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