newtonbase
Premium Member
You would feel them but it wouldn't be very strong.
Magnets Discussion and Help thread
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mitja
Regular
I magnetised stickerless thunderclap v2 today. I hate this cube so I used it for a rehearsal. Dmc: thanks for the tutorials it helped me to do everything in 30 minutes. I bought Loctite superglue gel, the one that is extra thick. It dries in about 60s and its cheap (15g for 3,5€). I bought the magnets frome some german magnet webstore. 4x2 mm N45 work great in this cube. I must say I was very sceptical about V2 as it has so many design flaws , but it became completely new cube. It is amazing, stability with N45 is great. I used weight 5 lube only for the core and 2 drops of "dynamite" DNM-37. Amazing.
Now I will play with those golden N42 in valk and, magnetise my daughters yuexiao and aolong V2.
A question, do you recomend N42 or n45 for stickerless yuexiao?
I have cubicle valk M with probably N35, it feels fine but I prefer a bit stronger pull in today's N45 experiment with Thunderclap V2.
Now I will play with those golden N42 in valk and, magnetise my daughters yuexiao and aolong V2.
A question, do you recomend N42 or n45 for stickerless yuexiao?
I have cubicle valk M with probably N35, it feels fine but I prefer a bit stronger pull in today's N45 experiment with Thunderclap V2.
newtonbase
Premium Member
30 mins is pretty quick. Well done. I've only ever done the v1.
CornerCutter
Veteran
I'm very confused about how you make sure your putting in the magnets in the correct way? Or does that even matter?
newtonbase
Premium Member
Getting polarity and alignment correct is vital but fairly simple. Just hold an edge piece and a corner piece together, put a drop of glue in each piece and pop in the magnets making sure they are in a reasonably central location on the face. They will sort polarity themselves. When dry use the edge to make a new corner and the corner to make a new edge etc. This will make sure that the magnets are the same all over the cube.
One Wheel
Legend
If you're worried about polarity, yes, it matters, but just place the first magnet and then use the attraction of the first magnet to set the second and you'll always get polarity right.
mitja
Regular
I was also surprised, but the glue tube is quite good, i mostly didn't do any corrections.I went in the order DMCubing suggested. first a drop of glue, then magnet from the block, just push it into the edge, then peel the one to stay on the outside. After i made 4 of them, a added a drop of glue to fix the magnet more. For corners, i just push the holder magnet from the outside of the edge and it slips right on the correct spot. again, almost no corrections with the stick helper.
I would like to be sure about magnet strenght and size for WuQue. What fits into inner cubies?
CornerCutter
Veteran
Thank you!
After watching Legoboyz3 video I understood it better.
After I assemble my Valk 3 tomorrow I will give my thoughts on the whole process.
CornerCutter
Veteran
Do you think I have to wait 24 hours for the glue to dry? I am using the Gorilla Gel Super Glue. All the parts I put the glue on are exposed to the air. Could I only wait like 3-4 hours?
Thanks.
Thanks.
newtonbase
Premium Member
I've used that glue and not waited at all. It does dry very quickly.
CornerCutter
Veteran
Do you use the same magnets for 2x2's? 4x2mm.
newtonbase
Premium Member
I haven't done one myself but as you need to use double the number of magnets per piece then weaker magnets are going to be preferred. DMCubing and Speedcubereview both have videos about it.
DMCubing
Regular
I used N48 in a Yuexiao and really liked it. Not too weak not too strong, just about right. I've never tried N45. Do you recall where you got them? I ordered some from an Australian speed cube shop but now after two months, I don't believe I'll ever receive them.
That's interesting about the Thunderclap V2. Since it already has drag built in, I've never considered magnetizing it. I think I've given all of mine away by now.
DMCubing
Regular
You may occasionally get by with an N35 4x2, but usually you have to go even lighter, like 4x1.5 or 4x1. It can be a challenge finding the right magnet.
mitja
Regular
I guess the magnets allowed to loosen the tensions on Thunderclap V2 and now the drag is still there but not too strong. I bought N45 at some German store: supermagnete.de. They are not cheap and postage is 9€, but it is DHL, fast.
I plan a Wuque now. What strenght do you recomend? I was thinking about N45 4x1,5 mm for corners and outer part of edges. Weaker N45 4x1mm for inner part of edges. If I compare N45 4x1,5 mm with N35 4x2mm, the force of N45 4x1,5 is about 5% weaker.
AlphaSheep
Veteran
I magnetised my second Valk yesterday. This time I used 3x2 N38s (previously used 5x1.5 N38s which were to strong for me).
I was a lot more confident this time and knew exactly what to do, so the whole process (disassembly, magnets, assembly, lube and tension) took just over an hour (compared to 2 and a half the first time).
I was expecting these magnets to be too weak, but overall, I think they're fine. The layers gently click into place and I much prefer that to the pronounced snap of the larger magnets in my other Valk.
I originally had the intention of being able to swap the pieces between the two cubes. I used an edge of my first Valk to measure the polarity of my stick of magnets, but unfortunately somewhere in between measuring the polarity and putting the piece of paper between the last two magnets, I must have turned the stick of magnets around. It means the polarities are opposite, so I can't swap pieces between the cubes
I was a lot more confident this time and knew exactly what to do, so the whole process (disassembly, magnets, assembly, lube and tension) took just over an hour (compared to 2 and a half the first time).
I was expecting these magnets to be too weak, but overall, I think they're fine. The layers gently click into place and I much prefer that to the pronounced snap of the larger magnets in my other Valk.
I originally had the intention of being able to swap the pieces between the two cubes. I used an edge of my first Valk to measure the polarity of my stick of magnets, but unfortunately somewhere in between measuring the polarity and putting the piece of paper between the last two magnets, I must have turned the stick of magnets around. It means the polarities are opposite, so I can't swap pieces between the cubes
One Wheel
Legend
Magnets on the inner slice need to be doubled, so I think you want half the strength. I haven't actually completed an even-layer magnetic cube, but I'm currently working on putting 3x2 n50s along the inner layer and 4x2 n35s everywhere else in my Aoshi. I think that will be about right, but not sure. I was going to do the same with a mini Aosu, but I traded that off for a few other cubes including a Yufu that I think I might try with the 4x2s.
mitja
Regular
If I compare your 3x2 N50s are about 9% stronger than my 4x1N45. 4x2N35 is 5% stronger then mine 4x1,5N45. So it is simmilar. I plan to use only 48 for edges( and 48 for corners), so no double edge magnets in the outer slices. Do you plan 144 version or 96?
One Wheel
Legend
I believe that 144 are necessary for a 6x6, and 96 for a 4x4. If you only do one pair of magnets along the center slice you can end up with two repelling magnets diagonal across the center slice in one edge with no attracting magnets, if that makes sense. Odd layered cubes require one magnet per half of an edge and per third of a corner, but even layered cubes require one more magnet in half of the center edge halves.
newtonbase
Premium Member
Is it not 192 just for the edges in a 6x6? 4 for each of the 48 edges.
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