Legalize Marijuana?

[ScarletFlax]

Hello.. I'm new to this site, and I stumbled upon this topic and decided to add my 2 cents.

One way to look at it is by comparing it to salvia. In the United States, salvia is not a banned substance, but marijuana is. Both can be potentially dangerous, and plenty of people have had adverse effects from their use (health effects, doing something wreckless while high, etc.)

The way I see it.. marijuana can remain illegal, in which case tons of people will continue to use it anyway. If it is made legal, slightly more people will use it, but not by much. Its dangers and adverse effects will still be present despite legalization.

Personally, I do not, and have never used it, and have no desire to in the future. I am relatively indifferent on its legalization because I do not think that it will appreciably change society for better or worse.

 

[Adrian]

Hello.. I'm new to this site, and I stumbled upon this topic and decided to add my 2 cents.

One way to look at it is by comparing it to salvia. In the United States, salvia is not a banned substance, but marijuana is. Both can be potentially dangerous, and plenty of people have had adverse effects from their use (health effects, doing something wreckless while high, etc.)

The way I see it.. marijuana can remain illegal, in which case tons of people will continue to use it anyway. If it is made legal, slightly more people will use it, but not by much. Its dangers and adverse effects will still be present despite legalization.

Personally, I do not, and have never used it, and have no desire to in the future. I am relatively indifferent on its legalization because I do not think that it will appreciably change society for better or worse.

It will improve society. Look at portugal's drug decriminalization. Drug related crimes have dropped and the age at which the age of kids exposed to drugs has risen from a low age \to higher ages.

I don't know if someone has pointed this out in this thread (havent read anything) but decriminalizing marijuana exposes people less to hard drugs because they are not getting marijuana from somewhere where other hard drugs are dealt with.

 

[Kenneth]

Marijuana should stay illegal, The next thing we need is more potheads in this country (United States). This drug effects the brain after continued use, over a period of time. Im not saying alcohol doesn't (and I'm against alcohol as well). But id rather have a dying liver than a dying brain.
Also cubers did you know that long-term marijuana abuse can lead to addiction, i.e., compulsive drug-seeking and abuse despite its known harmful effects upon social functioning in the context of family, school, work, and recreational activities, Such as speed solving a puzzle. Yeah, no 10 second times if you have been solving and smoking a while. Some of my buddies tell me its better than smoking a cigarette. Smoking pure cannabis is more harmful to lungs than tobacco. But did you know a study by the British Lung Foundation found that just three cannabis joints a day cause the same damage as 20 cigarettes. Thats right.
I have no respect for potheads, they are criminals. The same goes for alcoholics, and such.

Potheads and smokers will respond to me sayings like
"It growz fromz ze gwound, Iz Healthys fo meh! HurHurHuuuuuuuur"

But would you smoke deadly night shade, Think about it. (If you can)

Anyone who smokes pot and has a family are a disgrace. Think about your child and what you are exposing them to. Would you like them to smoke, really. I remember i had a friend(age 9) and he started smoking pot! all because his dad did it and such. Would you like to know where the dad is. (JAIL! where that twat belongs) Now that same kid is addicted and is having a lot of problems, he appears slower and less smart from the effects marijuana. because stupid twats like the father thought it was healthy to smoke in front of his infant.

You are just full of ********, what are your personal experiences? Ah, you read about it somewhere, I see

Ever heard of Hearst?

He was the one who planted that crap into your head.

 

[Rpotts]

Um, America was founded on the idea that you should have a say in how you get taxed.

you don't have a say in whether you get taxed.

One way to look at it is by comparing it to salvia. In the United States, salvia is not a banned substance, but marijuana is. Both can be potentially dangerous, and plenty of people have had adverse effects from their use (health effects, doing something wreckless while high, etc.)

salvia is banned in the following states -
Delaware Florida Hawaii Illinois Kansas Kentucky Minnesota Mississippi Missouri Nebraska North Dakota Ohio Oklahoma South Dakota Virginia
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people act more recklessly under the influence of alcohol.

 

[Speedsolver]

once legalized we don't get more users. compare new York and Amsterdam

You sure? Then, why have they been banning coffee shops in Netherlands?

 

[Ethan Rosen]

If someone overuses marijuana or other drugs and needs immediate medical care, but they have no money (spent it on the drugs), should they eat into taxpayers' tax money to get medical treatment? This is not a victimless crime!

You can't overdose on marijuana. It isn't possible.

 

[Bapao]

assuming my impression of the country is accurate. It appears to me that most of the druggies etc. are in Amsterdam

Don't big cities generally have a higher concentration of drug users in comparison?
But no, Amsterdam is not the cesspit where they send people that smoke weed. Weed is consumed all over Holland. You should come visit some time, especially Amsterdam. You would definitely go home with a more positive picture.

 

[PatrickJameson]

you don't have a say in whether you get taxed.

Man, I've had two PMs from people basically saying I was an idiot for thinking you could choose not to pay taxes. I said, and I quote, "America was founded on the idea that you should have a say in how you get taxed". i.e. People can have a say in how much tax money goes to where and are able to make sure, to a certain extent, that you are not being taxed too much and that the tax money is going to the right places. Taxing is an essential part to a healthy society. To think otherwise would be pretty insane.

 

[d4m4s74]

You sure? Then, why have they been banning coffee shops in Netherlands?

because our leaders are idiots

 

[EVH]

You can't overdose on marijuana. It isn't possible.

You can, too much of anything can harm and possibly kill you.

 

[Shortey]

You can, too much of anything can harm and possibly kill you.

Please give us a link to something that proves this is true.

 

[flan]

From watching documentaries over the years I have noticed 2 health related things keep popping up (weather they are true or not).

1) teenagers smoking it reduces memory.
2) It can make psychosis more likely even in later life.

It is because of these reasons that I actually think it should be legalized, so they can be controlled. Better education to young teenagers on packs saying perhaps to wait at least till the brain has stopped developing, 16 at least (this would also make adults more wary of giving it to there kids), and controlled strength. If people know the THC content to within, say, 2%, then they can potentially be more careful about how they smoke. Ie weak blunts with no tobacco so they don't get addicted.

 

[FatBoyXPC]

I feel like this thread is a huge repeat of the Proposition 19 thread.

 

[Kirjava]

I feel like this thread is a huge repeat of the Proposition 19 thread.

Look at Similar Threads just below. Same **** different thread.

 

[DavidWoner]

Um, America was founded on the idea that you should have a say in how you get taxed.

Right, so America elected a president and a congress that were in favor of taxing us for healthcare. We are being taxed how we, as a collective, chose.

 

[d4m4s74]

You can overdose on marijuana. If you smoke the whole weed supply in the netherlands within an hour...

 

[deadalnix]

You sure? Then, why have they been banning coffee shops in Netherlands?

Easy, because they troubble, not from dutch people, but from people from france or germany that come to netherland to get high and drugs traffic to these contries. In other words, the problem caused by prohibition in some countries is invading netherland.

 

[riffz]

yeah, right. so i guess peer pressure and the actual feeling of being high has nothing to do with it being a gateway drug? or that because its illegal and i have to buy from a drug dealer that its more of a gateway? what about 'dealers' that ONLY sell pot? im sure you know a few of those... i know i do.

Seeing as the vast majority of pot smokers I know have no interest in taking heavier, addictive drugs, my experiences would dictate so. And of course I know dealers who only sell pot. That is, of course, irrelevant.

If someone overuses marijuana or other drugs and needs immediate medical care, but they have no money (spent it on the drugs), should they eat into taxpayers' tax money to get medical treatment? This is not a victimless crime!

Yea, that doesn't happen man.

 

[EVH]

Please give us a link to something that proves this is true.

I should have said too much of anything consumed can kill you.

Paracelsus once said "All things are poison and nothing is without poison; only the dose makes a thing not a poison."

Two Examples:
Water

Banana/Potassium

 

[Rpotts]

I agree you can overdose on water as it has happened. I agree you can overdose on Potassium and many over common vitamins in extreme quantities. Now link to an article where someone overdoses on Marijuana or it's chemical component THC.