least Memo method?

[fanwuq]

What is the BLD method requiring the least memo to solve? I do 3-cycle as of now. It is 20 letters for permutations and I do orientations visually.

Does M2 edge solving take more memo than 3-cycle?

 

[RobinBloehm]

There are less "items" to memorize, but there are 24 different stickers instead of 12 different edges, as you use in 3-cycles.
3-cycles are easier to be memorized visually, but if you memo with some kind of system, M2 is easier because of the missing orientation.

 

[fanwuq]

interesting, but I'm afraid of messing up on orientating the wrong way for M2. I don't know if I can memo 24 stickers.

 

[Lotsofsloths]

No no..
There is NO orienting edges in M2.
But there are 24 possible PLACES to shoot to, not 24 items to memo.

 

[MistArts]

No no..
There is NO orienting edges in M2.
But there are 24 possible PLACES to shoot to, not 24 items to memo.

23... Shooting to same place doesn't count

 

[tim]

No no..
There is NO orienting edges in M2.
But there are 24 possible PLACES to shoot to, not 24 items to memo.

23... Shooting to same place doesn't count

lol, 22!

 

[AvGalen]

Orient first: Transform 12 edges from 24 possible locations into 12, then memo a max of 12 out of 12
Don't orient first: Memo a max of 12 out of 24.

 

[joey]

So Arnaud.. It seems you have changed your mind..
Are you saying they all need equal memo?

 

[AvGalen]

Not at all
Orient first requires to memo 12 edge permutations, just like non-orient-first.
But orient first also requires the memo of the transformation.
Why is this so hard for people to understand?

Orient first:
Memo 6 flipped edges: A C E G I K
Memo 12 edges: B D F H J L M O Q R U W

Non-Orient first:
Memo 12 edges: B D F H J L M O Q R U W

Where A and B are edge 1, A is bad orientation and B is correct orientation. Same for C/D, E/F, etc.

 

[tim]

Not at all
Orient first requires to memo 12 edge permutations, just like non-orient-first.
But orient first also requires the memo of the transformation.
Why is this so hard for people to understand?

Orient first:
Memo 6 flipped edges: A C E G I K
Memo 12 edges: B D F H J L M O Q R U W

Non-Orient first:
Memo 12 edges: B D F H J L M O Q R U W

Where A and B are edge 1, A is bad orientation and B is correct orientation. Same for C/D, E/F, etc.

http://speedsolving.com/showthread.php?t=3087&page=3#30

 

[fanwuq]

I'm sticking with 3-cycle. Can't understand M2. I use BCDFGLMNPRST for edges. Works pretty well, better than numbers at least.

 

[Blue Transaparent]

I'm sticking with 3-cycle. Can't understand M2. I use BCDFGLMNPRST for edges. Works pretty well, better than numbers at least.

What do you mean by BCDFGLMNPRST? i'm having a hard time with Edge memo as well... or "memo" in general for that matter...

 

[Joël]

I'm sticking with 3-cycle. Can't understand M2. I use BCDFGLMNPRST for edges. Works pretty well, better than numbers at least.

What do you mean by BCDFGLMNPRST? i'm having a hard time with Edge memo as well... or "memo" in general for that matter...

I am guessing he labelled the edges with those 12 letters, and memorises a sequence of letters for the edges.