Irish Open 2011/2012

kelseymckenna said:
Will do :D
My Dad found something that definately means I can compete for Ireland
Good Friday Agreement 1998
"Both governments must accept the right of Northern Ireland citizens to declare themselves as either British or Irish and that dual citizenship must be provided for those who desire it."
So it's all good :D
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So your WCA ID will say Ireland on it?

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I don't see how that definitely means that you will compete for Ireland. Do you have a passport atm? If so, if it's a British passport then you can't just compete for Ireland. The thing you quoted above means that you can change your citizenship (and passport) between Irish and British. But you must compete for the one that you have citizenship of.
 
kinch2002 said:
I don't see how that definitely means that you will compete for Ireland. Do you have a passport atm? If so, if it's a British passport then you can't just compete for Ireland. The thing you quoted above means that you can change your citizenship (and passport) between Irish and British. But you must compete for the one that you have citizenship of.
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But if NIre = British+Irish, then he can choose Irish:
2e2) Competitors with more than one nationality may change representing a country in their first competition of a calendar year.
 
Hi - hopefully these points may clarify things. For reference look at the current issue re golfer Rory McIlroy. He has the option to either represent Great Britain in the Olympics or alternatively he can represent Ireland. He holds a UK Passport but as a citizen of the Island of Ireland he has the option to elect to represent either country - the issue of which passport he holds is not relevant to this matter in issue.

Another example is Eugene Laverty and Jonathan Rea - both are motorcycle racers in the World Super Bike Championship. Both are from NI - however one chooses to race as an Irish National and the other as British.

As long as the governing body for the competition is not closed to a specific country then there is no issue in a person claiming dual Nationality. The only time this would become applicable would be in the event that an individual wanted to either -

A) Represent both Nationalities at a sporting event - this is not permitted by any governing body for Irish sporting events.
B) When the person gained an advantage by representing a nation for financial gain and it was not in the ethos of sport.

The issue of a 16 year old competing in a non profit sporting event does not fall within any of the above remits and is such he should therefore be entititles to claim his National Identity as Irish without hindrance.

Hopefully this goes some way to clarifying the matter.

(The above text was written by my father who is a lawyer)

@Daniel Sheppard/Kinch2002 - Unfortunately, Irish politics is very unique and as a result is very confusing to people living on the island never mind for people that don't live there.

Kelsey.
 
Thanks for clarifying that. I accept that you may compete for Ireland in WCA competitions. Just confirm to Blake which you'd like to compete for. If you ever change your mind you can do so at the beginning of a calendar year. It's always a shame to 'lose' a potential UK competitor, but I'm sure Ireland will be grateful :)
 
kinch2002 said:
Thanks for clarifying that. I accept that you may compete for Ireland in WCA competitions. Just confirm to Blake which you'd like to compete for. If you ever change your mind you can do so at the beginning of a calendar year. It's always a shame to 'lose' a potential UK competitor, but I'm sure Ireland will be grateful :)
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yes we will @kelsey welcome to the dark side...we have COOKIES
 
Btw for anyone who wants to fly to dublin you can get a bus to hueston trainstation for €2.30 ( sam correct me if im wrong) and if you book yuor train ticket 4 weeks before you can get it for 20 ish euro
 
There are 2 options to travel from Dublin Airport to Heuston Railway Station:
1. Take a No. 16A or 41C Dublin Bus from Dublin Airport to the city centre (i.e. O'Connell St) for €2.3, then take a 30 minutes' walk or a Luas (tram) for 1.5 euro or take a bus for 1.2 euro to Heuston. If you choose to walk, just walk along the river or the Luas tram. You can hardly get lost:P

2. Take a no. 747 Airlink Dublin Bus from airport to heuston for €6 (or €10 for a return trip).

Btw Dublin Bus doesn't accept any banknote (except 747). So get some coins at the airport:P
 
Great! Thanks.
Also, I haven't had a lot of time to read through all of this thread but I just want to thank you for organising this competition :D I was planning on going to a UK competition this summer but it was gonna be really difficult in terms of money and transport etc. And so being able to go to a competition in Ireland is fantastic! :D
 
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