Improved 2-Sided PLL Recognition System

[Nilsibert]

Personally, except for recognising V/Y perms and which AUF to do E perms, I've had no problem with my way. I guess either can work, just like intuitive and algorithmic F2L. However, I think that if you don't know full 2-sided recog, as if you were halfway through what you're learning, you have the disadvantage of having to check to see if it's a case you know first, and then if you don't know it having to then do 'normal' recognition, slowing you down. But yes, once you've fully learned either method I can't see why one method should have the advantage.

I think it may depend on the person. For me, I doubt I'd learn it just by experience. Especially on really hard cases, I used to just immediately do U' moves until I got it, basically ignoring what I first saw. With my way, I started to actually look at it and seeing a pattern rather than just go "Oh it's a mess, do U' until something comes up I easily recognize" Being half way through does slow me down half of the time, but I see it like how it was being in the middle of learning full OLL. It'll come with practise.

 

[uberCuber]

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[TDM]

I think it may depend on the person. For me, I doubt I'd learn it just by experience. Especially on really hard cases, I used to just immediately do U' moves until I got it, basically ignoring what I first saw. With my way, I started to actually look at it and seeing a pattern rather than just go "Oh it's a mess, do U' until something comes up I easily recognize" Being half way through does slow me down half of the time, but I see it like how it was being in the middle of learning full OLL. It'll come with practise.

My eyes see the mess and usually find something from it, although I do sometimes find myself doing U' for V perms where I can't see a 1x2 or Y perms from a y2 angle. I think experience is helpful for just instantly responding, but I can definitely see it being a slower way to learn 2-sided PLL recog. I can't do it fully yet and I average a little over 14, whereas there are probably lots of people slower than me who can do it. Not that I really care though... I haven't focused specifically on becoming fast since deciding to learn PLL. Any attempt at learning algs have ended in me giving up after a couple.

I only know half of OLL, and I don't hesitate. But I just don't plan on learning any more OLLs than I already know any time soon, and with time everything's become 1-look whether I'm using one alg or two.

 

[mark49152]

I think it's best to just get an idea of certain groups of cases(outer or inner bars, headlights and so on) and with time it will become easier and easier.

That's my approach too. It really doesn't need to be any more complicated than 4-sided recognition. There is a row of six stickers, and only ~35 patterns, most of which have clear features like headlights or bars. When I learned, I didn't find any of the resources out there really took the direct approach of organizing a simple list of patterns and associated PLLs, so I made my own which you can find here.

 

[Parity Case]

Lucas - how is your recognition improving with your method? Are you finding it easy? I really like the originality of using sounds. I'm going to stick to learning the contents of my guide for the moment, primarily because I put so much time into producing it.

Mark & Lucas - ah, "adjacent"... I like that term - better than my "different" used for non-same, non-opposite colored stickers. Mark, I hadn't come across your guide in the past. Have you managed to develop full recognition since making your pdf?

 

[mark49152]

Mark, I hadn't come across your guide in the past. Have you managed to develop full recognition since making your pdf?

Mostly. There are maybe 4-5 out of the ~35 patterns that just won't stick for me, generally the ones with more colours and less obvious features. I can recognise them, just not as quickly as I can peek at a third side

 

[Lucas Garron]

Lucas - how is your recognition improving with your method? Are you finding it easy? I really like the originality of using sounds. I'm going to stick to learning the contents of my guide for the moment, primarily because I put so much time into producing it.

It's definitely improved. I used to make the R vs. T mistake quite frequently, and I basically don't do it anymore. I don't quite have the G's from all angles, but I've definitely improved.

I'm not sure if sounds matter too much, but I really like the fact that every case is handled consistently.
Things like "bookends" are cute, but makes it hard to look up a case if you don't know it.

 

[mark49152]

Things like "bookends" are cute, but makes it hard to look up a case if you don't know it.

Why? Not sure what you mean. It's just a simple pattern, like headlights.

Two-sided PLL recognition really isn't that complex. You see six stickers in a row, there are ~35 possible patterns (most of which are simple to recognize) and each pattern indicates a unique PLL.