How to switch from Fridrich?

[fanwuq]

I can't stop using Fridrich. Trying to build blocks can be a lot better, but most of the time, I don't really get better move count than Fridrich. I know full color neutral would help, but I do seem to have a bias to just build a 2x2x2 block on white or yellow. I've tried this week's FMC scramble, but I sucked, getting ~30 moves just for F2L. That's probably no better than my regular speed solve CFOP. I think I should do pure Petrus or Heise instead of just Fridrich with really really weird double x cross. Last F2L pair with partial edge orient is not effective. What can you do if you make 3 2x2x1 blocks that doesn't make into a triple x cross?

 

[Johannes91]

I know full color neutral would help, but I do seem to have a bias to just build a 2x2x2 block on white or yellow.

Assuming white and yellow are opposite each other, every 2x2x2 block has white xor yellow in it.

About switching from Fridrich to other methods or from color resticted to color neutral solving... I don't have any tips, sorry. Maybe try going through other cubers' FMC solutions or Lars' examples.

 

[coopersacatfilms]

well fridrich is like a comitment you just have to practice it so I think you should stick with it.

 

[shelley]

well fridrich is like a comitment you just have to practice it so I think you should stick with it.

Nonsense. If he wants to switch to Petrus or Heise what's stopping him?

 

[Lofty]

well fridrich is like a comitment you just have to practice it so I think you should stick with it.

Nonsense. If he wants to switch to Petrus or Heise what's stopping him?

Because Fridrich is the only good method there is duh! Every noob knows that...

 

[Mike Hughey]

You already know a bunch of tricks that help you with Fridrich; you don't yet know those for other methods. Just stick with it a few weeks and you will eventually start to get better. If you're interested in fewest moves, it's best that you at least take a couple of hours and go through tutorials on Petrus and Heise so that you at least completely understand the how the methods are supposed to work. I've done that, and now even though I don't actually "know" Petrus or Heise, I can follow someone else's Petrus or Heise solve and basically understand what's going on. Since I've done that, my block building has definitely gotten better most of the time than pure Fridrich. I even got a 31 move solution this week! (I got a bit lucky, though, I think.)

FMC is a lot like speedsolving - just practice and persistence is enough to make a big difference! I was exactly where you are back when Arnaud first introduced fewest moves to the weekly competition.

 

[fanwuq]

Ha! Real funny thing is that I tried this week's FMC and I did much better (43 moves instead of 53) using Fridrich. I don't know what method to use any more. Perhaps fridrich with Multislotting, and/or CLL+ELL?

 

[Mike Hughey]

Ha! Real funny thing is that I tried this week's FMC and I did much better (43 moves instead of 53) using Fridrich. I don't know what method to use any more. Perhaps fridrich with Multislotting, and/or CLL+ELL?

I can see how someone who's good with FMC with Fridrich might be able to get down to 40 moves or so fairly consistently (I doubt I could do any better than about 50 consistently, without working on it a lot, but I think someone who's better could). But I doubt you'll be able to get the really good solves like the experts do (consistently around 30) with just modifications to Fridrich like you suggest. So I guess it depends on how good you want to be.

 

[Siraj A.]

Because Fridrich is the only good method there is duh! Every noob knows that...

I didn't know that, and last time I checked I'm not a noob. hehe


Fanwuq if you can not switch to a new method from Fridrich then why do you want to switch?

 

[fanwuq]

I want to switch, but after AP exams. As of now, it seems that fridrich is still easier and lower move count for me. I think I might want to go into Heise for FMC and learn some empty slot tricks and multislots for speedsolving. Fridrich FMC is all I can do right now without learning any new algs, ideas, etc. Can't wait until after exams... I think I can average about 47 Fridrich FMC now, I think low 40s should be possible after a while. And if I can see that in a speedsolve, that would be nice.

 

[Lofty]

Because Fridrich is the only good method there is duh! Every noob knows that...

I didn't know that, and last time I checked I'm not a noob. hehe


Fanwuq if you can not switch to a new method from Fridrich then why do you want to switch?

Because he wants to do fewest moves...

 

[Siraj A.]

Oh woops I missed that in the first post.