How fast is your V perm?

[blah]

Just wondering, can anyone here do a sub-1.5 V perm? Because I did quite a bit of V perms a while ago, and I only got 1 sub-1.5, the rest were ~1.6.

Or is it very common/easy for everyone to get a sub-1.5 V perm? Which algorithms do you guys use? And they should come with a little description of fingertricks too, of course. Thanks in advance.

 

[badmephisto]

I need a new Vperm as well, my current one (R' U R' d' R' F' R2 U' R' U R' F R F) will never yield me a better than 2 second time it seems

There are 2 Vperms that Gripper spit out that are possibly worth trying out
R2 U' B2 d r2 F U' y' R U R' D R D' R
R' U z' U' r' U' b' R2 U' R' U R' F R F

 

[fanwuq]

I use 2. One for OH and RH, one for 2H.

OH, I use the LUR alg that looks like a double J perm.

2H, I use F'U F'U'R'D R'D'R²F'R'F R F. It's a nice alg. (I do it from a different view)
For me, it feels like fast beginning, waste half a second regripping, super fast ending.

 

[blah]

@badmephisto: DON'T CHANGE! That's the one I use. I discovered a nice finger trick that shaved about half a second of my original time, which, like yours, was sup-2. I say discovered because I came up with it on my own and I've never seen anyone doing it like I do, not that I've seen much though

For me, it was the final FRF that bothered me most. So I came up with this solution: Middle finger. While pulling U with your right index during the final R'UR', extend your middle and get ready for an F turn, pull F after you've completed the R', turn your wrist outwards for R, and do the final F with your index. It should feel very natural after a little practice, almost like a U2 double trigger. Took me about 5 minutes of non-stop V perming to get the feeling right and the execution smooth. And now I can just do it subconsciously.

I fell in love with this finger trick so much that I changed my N perm so I could use it Here's my N perm by the way: RU'R'U-lUFU'-R'F'RU'-RUR'Fl', the finger trick is in that last bit.

So, at the end of all that, if this what you're already doing, then change your algorithm If it's not, I shaved half a second with this one fingertrick, you should get the same results.

By the way, do you really do it as R'UR'd'? I know that's how the algorithm appears in most websites, but I found it extremely disturbing, I just do a U' and y cube rotation simultaneously, which is very natural and very fast.

 

[Kenneth]

Here is mine:

L U' R' U L' U' .. L U' R U L' U2 R' U2 R

First part is Niklas minus last R that normaly is where I placed the dots, Not the shortest V perm but pretty fast. Look how the pairs moves and it is easy to learn.

R' U L U' R U R' U L' U' R U2 L U2 L' ... the mirror if you like that one better
R U' L' U R' U' R U' L U R' U2 L' U2 L ... y2 version
L' U R U' L U L' U R' U' L U2 R U2 R' ... mirror y2

Choose the one that does Niklas from your favorite angle

 

[martijn_cube]

this is the one i use: (R’UR’U’)y x2(R’UR’U’)IR(U’R’URU)
don't really know how fast i can do that one. but i'm not really very fast with PLL's. but i think it can be pretty fast.

 

[fanwuq]

y' R' U R' U' f' R y R' F' R2 U' R' U R U

is what gripper give for my alg. I do it differently though...

Edit:
R' U R' U' x' U' y R U' R' U2 y' R' U' R U R

Edit2: I actually use

R' U R' d' x R' F R' F' R2 U' R' U R U

 

[Crzyazn]

R' U R' U' y x2 R' U R' U' R2 x' U' R' U R U

I don't know why, but I just happen to like this one. The axis turn is not clumsy at all.

 

[philkt731]

this is the one i use: (R’UR’U’)y x2(R’UR’U’)IR(U’R’URU)
don't really know how fast i can do that one. but i'm not really very fast with PLL's. but i think it can be pretty fast.

I use that one and can get ~1.6-1.7

 

[Lotsofsloths]

this is the one i use: (R’UR’U’)y x2(R’UR’U’)IR(U’R’URU)
don't really know how fast i can do that one. but i'm not really very fast with PLL's. but i think it can be pretty fast.

I use that one and can get ~1.6-1.7

sub 1.5 is easily possible with that alg.

 

[McWizzle94]

this is the one i use: (R’UR’U’)y x2(R’UR’U’)IR(U’R’URU)
don't really know how fast i can do that one. but i'm not really very fast with PLL's. but i think it can be pretty fast.

I use that one and can get ~1.6-1.7

same here, but i think i want to use one without so many cube rotations so i gotta find a new alg

 

[Dene]

I use Dan Knights' algorithm and can do it sub1.5:

R' U l' f' (r) R' U R' U' (r') R2 U' R' U R U

 

[MTGjumper]

R' U R' (U' y) R' F' R2 U' R' U R' F R F

I average ~1.9.

 

[somerandomkidmike]

R' U R' U' y x2 R' U R' U' R2 x' U' R' U R U

I don't know why, but I just happen to like this one. The axis turn is not clumsy at all.

I use the same algorithm, with different grips. I could ge less than 2.2, but I have a cheap dollar store cube. I get about 2.7.

 

[DAE_JA_VOO]

R' U R' (U' x) R' F' R2 U' R' U R' F R F

I average ~1.9.

There's a problem here. Unless your V Perm's result is a scrambled cube, you've made a mistake

 

[Johannes91]

R' U R' (U' x) R' F' R2 U' R' U R' F R F

There's a problem here.

The 'x' should be 'y'.

 

[DAE_JA_VOO]

R' U R' (U' x) R' F' R2 U' R' U R' F R F

There's a problem here.

The 'x' should be 'y'.

Aah yes, thanks

 

[MTGjumper]

Yeah, that was a stupid lapse in concentration. I even checked the algorithm afterwards, because it is one of the few that I only know via muscle memory, and read the x as a y.

 

[DAE_JA_VOO]

Hahaha, no problem

I would have made the same mistake. I know ALL my algs by muscle memory, so writing them down would be a disaster

 

[jtjogobonito]

I use Katsu's with some cube rotations.

R' U R' U' (u f') U' R U' R' U2 (u') R' U' R U R
or
R' U R' U' (y z') U' R U' R' U2 (y') R' U' R U R


With out much practice I think my best is 1.7x with this alg. I find it much faster than the more common one.