How are more mature cubers' turn speed and other experiences?

Chree said:
Also, Stefan is 35 and sub 15.
I don't recommend practicing on a bad cube. The only thing it does is inflame cubing thumb and cubing wrist. Ailments long since forgotten thanks to modern speed cubes. Instead I find it better to just drill algs... slow at first, then ever increasing speeds to see where your limit is and what triggers you need to work on.

For the list:
-4 Look F2L... See the case, close your eyes, solve the case. 4 times
-3x3 scrambles on big cubes. Helps with 3x3 stage on big cubes, you start to develop preferred algs and fingertricks. Encourages slow turning, aids lookahead.
-Practicing CN. As a White Cross solver, 2 things that help my recognition are: 1) drilling OLL and PLL algs on non-yellow sides, and 2) practicing on different color schemes. My girlfriend uses a completely different color scheme than the standard (very girly), so her cube is great for CN practice. I have yet to actively put CN into my solves, but occasionally I'll see a beautiful green cross I just can't pass up.
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I like all of these as well. And I get what you mean about the bad cube thing. I guess it would be better to use a smooth turning cube without great corner cutting. I have a Ghosthand cube that is super smooth but forces clean turning that I use for this purpose but I like what you said about the drills. Almost kills two birds with one stone.
 
sk8erman41 said:
I like all of these as well. And I get what you mean about the bad cube thing. I guess it would be better to use a smooth turning cube without great corner cutting. I have a Ghosthand cube that is super smooth but forces clean turning that I use for this purpose but I like what you said about the drills. Almost kills two birds with one stone.
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Since I only got into speedcubing relatively recently, I completely missed out on brands like Ghosthand, Alpha, Eastsheen, etc. The worst cube I own (besides a Rubik's) is either my Dayan Taiyan I bought a month ago from thecubicle, or an original Shengshou 3x3 I got from thecubedepot a couple weeks ago. I also have a Shengen FII coming in the mail as we speak. I really wanted to give it a try.

@pipkiksass: I see your point in leaving out "amount of experience". And I also think it'd be cool to include "method". That said:
Age: 29
Global Average: probably in the 19s (did you decide a format for this?)
Method: CFOP

@newtonbase: Glad we can be encouraging :) and seeing as though you only started less than 3 months ago? You're doing just fine. Have you been to a comp yet?
 
Chree said:
@newtonbase: Glad we can be encouraging :) and seeing as though you only started less than 3 months ago? You're doing just fine. Have you been to a comp yet?
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No plans to go to any competitions but maybe if my niece gets good I could take her one day. She's not much slower than me even though her technique is poor and she uses pure beginner's method.

Looking forward to the stats thread.
 
ellwd said:
I'm feeling this. I changed my sig from Ao100 to Ao50 because I've only ever done about 3 Ao100s. Even Ao50 timed is pretty unusual for me.
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It's harder for us oldies to find time to do ao100 when they take us twice as long as the kids :)

It's great to see this thread and see that there are more older cubers on the forum than I had realised.

I'm 46 and started cubing about 18 months ago. It took me over a year to get sub-30 and now I am around 25-26. I probably average an hour a day. I find that systematic, targeted practice works best for me. I don't get anywhere by just solving; I only improve by deliberately breaking down weaknesses.
 
mark49152 said:
I find that systematic, targeted practice works best for me. I don't get anywhere by just solving; I only improve by deliberately breaking down weaknesses.
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I don't disagree with this, but I do find it takes a certain amount of "just solving" to keep all the algs I know in my head/fingers. (As I said earlier, time is a big limiting factor for me.)
 
mark49152 said:
It's great to see this thread and see that there are more older cubers on the forum than I had realised.

I'm 46 and started cubing about 18 months ago. It took me over a year to get sub-30 and now I am around 25-26. I probably average an hour a day. I find that systematic, targeted practice works best for me. I don't get anywhere by just solving; I only improve by deliberately breaking down weaknesses.
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I think that this is one of my favorite threads that I have read in awhile because of the age factor, and I think that its funny that it started in 2011 and is now just gaining traction :)

I think that for "more mature" cubers it seems that deliberate practice seems to be more and more important. Maybe the "younger minds" can pick stuff up better in "just" solves and improve on weaknesses without as much deliberate thought.
 
newtonbase said:
Reading the other tread it looks like I am by far the slowest solver around but I did get a 38s PB last night.
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Lol. No shame in that - hopefully the stats will show you what is possible at your age, and fill you with confidence and optimism!

I'll be publishing stats later... if I have time, along with rankings by age. I was thinking about age categories earlier, and might just base these on the volume of responses, but I was thinking:

<18 (roughly 'school age')
18-24 (roughly 'college', or further education, age... or young professionals with possibly fewer responsibilities)
25-29
30-34
35-39
40-44
45-49
50-54
>54

Any thoughts, anyone?
 
I had been thinking maybe split up the younger ones a bit more as it is quite a big range with an awful lot of good cubers in there but then they are probably of very similar ability. I doubt age really kicks in below 18! It's us oldies we are really interested in so, after so thought I'd say stick with your suggestions but yes, it can always be amended depending on the results. You could even just do a basic graph and not band them at all.

And if you can find anyone slower than me that would be great too.
 
The graph will be all ages; however the results will be ordered by age then average. This should make it very easy to filter results and graph just a certain age band.
 
I'd actually like to see the younger age category broken up even further. I know this was meant to show where older cubers compared to one another, but since most cubers are younger, there's going to be a much wider variety in the <18 category. I'd even be interested to see <10, 10-12, 13-15, 16-18.

Also be careful. At least a couple people misunderstood the thread and posted their global average for something other than 3x3. There's a skewb average of 6.5, for instance, from Sajwo.
 
I agree that the younger age brackets could be broken up, but as you said the data might decide that. I'm thinking 5 year increments would be good unless there is enough responses to require more.
 
Mike Hughey said:
I unfortunately haven't improved at all in about a year, despite having practiced 3x3x3 quite a bit; I have to admit I'm starting to get discouraged at ever getting sub-20.
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Yeah, I've been here a bit, and stopped cubing, but I always noticed you've been stuck in the sub-20 topic.
Don't want to sound rude, but I never wanted to ask you, because I thought it did sound rude.
Why have you been stuck there for so long? Like, what slows you down so much? Don't you know full PLL and OLL? I don't even know full OLL, and I'm sub-20. (Not gloating, just trying to put it into perspective.)
Is it your turn speed? Is it your recognition? Your recall? Your F2L?

Sorry if this sounds rude... :(
 
pipkiksass said:
Any thoughts, anyone?
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I'd have thought smaller ranges for youngsters and larger ranges for oldies.

E.g. 8 ranges of <10, 10-11, 12-14, 15-18, 19-24, 25-34, 35-44, 45+

It would be cool to see simple bar charts for individual attributes such as method, age and global average.

With regards ages and times (main goal of the survey) it might work well to have a single chart with 8 lines representing the age bands. I think this is already your intention.

I'd be happy to help out with stuff if I have access to the collated data.
 
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