Hong Kong Open 2009 with new WR

[masterofthebass]

two words:

****ing nuts...

 

[Mr Cubism]

the WR is 0.83 by Patrick Jamson http://www.worldcubeassociation.org...gionId=&years=&show=100+Persons&single=Single

We talk about avarage here.....

 

[PatrickJameson]

I will beat this if I can stop getting two failed solves every average . I will start practicing once I get my stackmat back.

 

[wk]

Haha, the crowd (or maybe his friends) are asking him to DNF the last attempt, since he already got 0.91, 0.90, 0.91 and 0.90..

and he got 0.86.

 

[mcciff2112]

That is awesome. Congrats, if I'm not mistaken, that was the longest standing current WR (February 2007 )

 

[moogra]

wow what? 0.90 is hard to beat. they're pro

-edit-
good luck Patrick!

 

[kimchikoon]

Another WR for BF on 19/7
45.55 by Haiyan Zhuang (China)

 

[TheJoker]

the judges know they were on video... and they know the WR can be broken... so to avoid any circumstances that will happened especially here in this forum...

they make sure the WR is LEGAL and LEGIT... as the NEW rules... 25 degree higher will result in +2... so they check every solve to this guy... to make it sure it is a 100% LEGIT AVG WR holder...

they know this forum... and they also know there is a lot of STRICT people here... so they avoid it anything...

great video... another long standing record been broken...

thanks a lot... hehheheheheheheh...

 

[jcuber]

Do you laugh this much in real life? What rules state anything about 25 degrees?

 

[TheJoker]

@jcuber... laughing is just like a signature... don't mind them...

25 degree is a new rules in magic... just recently change i guess...

 

[Tim Reynolds]

What new rules are you talking about? Could you tell us where you heard this?

Also, could you stop typing "..." so much? It just makes your posts harder to read.

 

[moogra]

There isn't a new rule.

For Magic (and similar puzzles) the puzzle must be flat on the surface. The maximum elevation of the bottom side of the puzzle at the end of a solve is two tiles higher than flat.

Source: http://www.worldcubeassociation.org/regulations/
Section 10g

 

[TheJoker]

What new rules are you talking about? Could you tell us where you heard this?

Also, could you stop typing "..." so much? It just makes your posts harder to read.

sorry for the periods. it is a habit of mine.

yes, new rules says TWO TILES higher than flat. and by a calculation with the surface and angle, it is close to 25 degree. or use other magic that folded once so it stack two tiles then measure it.

people here are very strict. they question a little about something on anything. and they knows it. so they apply some strict.

if my PERIODS are being questioned??? what more if it is a WR solve.

it is just my two cents.

peace. hehehhehehe...

 

[Kian]

What new rules are you talking about? Could you tell us where you heard this?

Also, could you stop typing "..." so much? It just makes your posts harder to read.

sorry for the periods. it is a habit of mine.

yes, new rules says TWO TILES higher than flat. and by a calculation with the surface and angle, it is close to 25 degree. or use other magic that folded once so it stack two tiles then measure it.

people here are very strict. they question a little about something on anything. and they knows it. so they apply some strict.

if my PERIODS are being questioned??? what more if it is a WR solve.

it is just my two cents.

peace. hehehhehehe...

That regulation is not new.

 

[pjk]

I actually think that was the best judging of an magic event i have ever seen. Sure it could be excessive, but when someone is getting times where it is close to WR territory, i think it needs to be done right. The last thing we want is for there to be questions around a WR's legitimacy.

I do agree, but magic is one the few events where it is obvious to see a DNF or +2 pretty much every time. I guess if the competitor doesn't care, it doesn't matter how long the judge takes to look at each solve. But I do agree with Stefan, that was some overkill.

For me, though, the biggest concern with magic is whether the person is stopping the timer separately from touching the puzzle.

Exactly. I went through and looked at it frame by frame, and it looks like he drops it out of the air, which is nice so we know he wasn't solving when he stopped the timer. He had the puzzle solved and his hands within an inch of the time at around 0.68 for each solve (which I'm guessing is common for most fast magic solvers).

Here is one frame at 0.68 seconds with the puzzle solved and his hands very close to on the timer:

One frame later at 0.81:

And then 4 frames after that at 0.90 and his hands are well off the timer (after stopping it):

Amazingly quick, and kind of interesting that it took that long for the timer to stop with his hands so close to the timer. Perhaps there is a delay in the display time from when the timer is actually stopped.

 

[Carugo]

My god, he's so consistant .

Looks like he's refraining from being too fast just not to DNF

Congrats young man !

 

[Stefan]

yes, new rules says TWO TILES higher than flat. and by a calculation with the surface and angle, it is close to 25 degree.

I didn't calculate but I'd say it's about 10 degrees. Though I'd never state that as the rule (like you did) cause rephrasing just introduces error (like you did, significantly).

Perhaps there is a delay in the display time

There is. And not just at the end. Check the frames at the start of the solve, you should see the same delay there.

 

[cts2906]

I actually think that was the best judging of an magic event i have ever seen. Sure it could be excessive, but when someone is getting times where it is close to WR territory, i think it needs to be done right. The last thing we want is for there to be questions around a WR's legitimacy.

I do agree, but magic is one the few events where it is obvious to see a DNF or +2 pretty much every time. I guess if the competitor doesn't care, it doesn't matter how long the judge takes to look at each solve. But I do agree with Stefan, that was some overkill.

For me, though, the biggest concern with magic is whether the person is stopping the timer separately from touching the puzzle.

Exactly. I went through and looked at it frame by frame, and it looks like he drops it out of the air, which is nice so we know he wasn't solving when he stopped the timer. He had the puzzle solved and his hands within an inch of the time at around 0.68 for each solve (which I'm guessing is common for most fast magic solvers).

Here is one frame at 0.68 seconds with the puzzle solved and his hands very close to on the timer:

One frame later at 0.81:

And then 4 frames after that at 0.90 and his hands are well off the timer (after stopping it):

Amazingly quick, and kind of interesting that it took that long for the timer to stop with his hands so close to the timer. Perhaps there is a delay in the display time from when the timer is actually stopped.

hey~just funny of you?

im near by the WR player.

i can see it is not +2 OR DNF!~