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I was recently randomly linked to a video of a speedcuber and thought it really was fascinating. I have a mathematical bent and I enjoy dexterity and speed challenges, plus I always felt guilty for being good at math and not knowing the first thing about Rubik's cubes, so just last week I decided to go pick up a Rubik's brand cube from a hobby store and watch some youtube tutorials on how to solve it. My initial intention was not to learn any "crazy techniques" for solving, and I knew nothing about cubes in general (I naively thought a Rubik's brand would be a good choice), so I was just happy with whatever beginner's method I could find that would help me solve it in under 10 minutes. Using the beginner method and a cube that locks up every single time I try to turn it, my best time is slightly over 2 minutes right now. As I found out after buying the Rubik's brand cube, a few of my friends are speedcubers and encouraged me to get a better cube, so after some research, I picked up a Dayan Zhanchi which, unfortunately, is still being shipped.

In the meantime, I'm learning 2-look OLL and 2-look PLL and hoping that, when I can actually turn a cube with my finger (instead of needing my entire hand to fix locks all the time), I'll be able to get times around a minute. From there I'll look into F2L and expanding my OLL/PLL knowledge. I'd like to settle on which algorithms I want to use for each OLL/PLL case but I can't without holding a real cube and feeling how comfortable I am with certain turns.

Just wanted to say hi and thanks for providing a good resource for beginner cubers. Also, a few comments:

1) I've heard some Zhanchi's come pre-lubed, and I kind of assumed anything would be better than my Rubik's brand, so I haven't looked at all into self-lubricating my cube until today. It seems that I will likely still have to lube my cube, regardless of how it comes in the mail. It seems like Lubix is the most recommended brand I can find, and I watched the famous "how to lube a Zhanchi" youtube, but I'm not a DIY cuber and I would be a bit nervous taking everything apart all the way down to the core like that initially, I think. I've also heard some people really like Traxxas and Maru lubes. Are these available in local hardware stores or hobby shops, and are they good choices for someone like me who isn't approaching WR times and just wants a cube that actually turns? I would prefer not to order online if possible, due to shipping costs/shipping time, and as far as I know Lubix is only available online.

2) I also wanted to comment on just how terrible the Rubik's brand cubes are. I don't know if anyone from Rubik's reads these forums or will ever see this, but that cube has been frustrating me for days on end and it makes no sense, as the only brand most non-enthusiasts will ever buy or know about, why your cubes are so terribly made. Since turning the puzzle itself is naturally fun and engaging (even if you can't solve it), that should be the primary focus of any cube you release. I could go through the effort of lubing/sanding my cube (as vids on youtube suggest) but there's no point with my Zhanchi coming hopefully soon. Just wanted to rant a bit about how Rubik's should be at the forefront of good cube design, not 20 years in the past. It almost prevented me from pursuing the hobby entirely. Apparently Rubik's recently released a "speed cube" version which, while not world class, is acceptable for novices and actually turns easily. Why can't THIS design be their main brand that they market everywhere, and that I picked up unwittingly from a hobby store? Anyway, enough of that rant. :)
 
To answer your first question, your cube will most likely come with some sort of lube, but at your speed I wouldn't worry about it. If you don't want to bother with taking your cube apart, then don't. A Zhanchi will still be very good without lube. Yes, Lubix is a very popular brand of lube, but it is expensive. Traxxas is very similar to Lubix, but cheaper, so it is a good alternative. I have silicone lube from thecubicle.us, which is another lube like Lubix. I have found that these lubes work better in the core but it is better to go with a lighter weight lube or Maru lube for the pieces (thecubicle.us has 5 weights to choose from). As far as I know Traxxas is the only one you can purchase in a hobby store.

As for your Rubik's rant, I completely agree. The only reason I can think of is that they don't need to make a faster cube because their normal one has already made them so much money. No one who is learning to solve a Rubik's cube for the first time is going to know to buy a speed cube, so they all buy Rubik's brand. Yes it is annoying, but I can understand why they do not care to make better cubes.

Hopefully this was helpful. Good luck on your cubing journey!
 
Yes! You will absolutely love your Zhanchi! It corner cuts and is soo much faster than a Rubik's brand... You already know 2-look oll and pll... well your on the right track..lol... f2l is definitely something for you to learn next... and put in a lot of practice... practice makes perfect! One cool fact.... if you really get to doing hundreds and hundreds of solves on the original rubiks brand... and lubricate it somehow.... It can turn out quite fast... I did a sub 30 average on my first try with mine after not having solved it for a while! I recommend you watch youtube cubers and videos and interviews... you can learn a lot... Also Cubing World is probably the best, but that's closer for when you get more advanced... Welcome to Cubing! :D
 
Welcome to the forums! You will definitely enjoy your Zhanchi when it comes along, and yes, you can pretty much buy any speed-cube these days and expect it to be much better than the Rubik's Brand.
 
As for your Rubik's rant, I completely agree. The only reason I can think of is that they don't need to make a faster cube because their normal one has already made them so much money. No one who is learning to solve a Rubik's cube for the first time is going to know to buy a speed cube, so they all buy Rubik's brand. Yes it is annoying, but I can understand why they do not care to make better cubes.

I heard that they were going to start implementing the new Rubick's Speed Cube into stores which would help that problem. Who knows if it's actually true though.
 
Hi, welcome!
I have a rubiks cube myself and I agree, it locks all the time :p
F2L will reduce your time a lot, of course practice will cut your time a lot too!
Any idea of the amount of solves you do every day? I'm new myself so I'm curious ;)
Have fun!
 
Welcome, fellow Canadian! Watch out... you may not care much about "crazy techniques" and getting too fast yet, but you will soon be hooked to the cube and will no longer be satisfied with 1-minute solves.
 
Welcome, fellow Canadian! Watch out... you may not care much about "crazy techniques" and getting too fast yet, but you will soon be hooked to the cube and will no longer be satisfied with 1-minute solves.

Can confirm, thought I would be happy with sub 30 solves.. And then sub 20.. And then sub 15.. And then sub 11... I'm still going :P
 
Can confirm, thought I would be happy with sub 30 solves.. And then sub 20.. And then sub 15.. And then sub 11... I'm still going :P
Yeah, I'm at the stage of sometimes being happy with sub-11 solves, waiting for my second sub-10. Now sub-10 has happened once, I don't think I'll be quite as happy with it again, so idk what my sub-10 reaction is yet :p Although my times vary so much, I sometimes get several sub-12s in the same Ao12 and don't really notice until Prisma tells me it's a PB.
 
Hi, welcome!
Any idea of the amount of solves you do every day? I'm new myself so I'm curious ;)
Have fun!

Right now it's only a few per day (3-4) because I simply can't stand the base cube locking up/taking huge effort to turn, plus I fear I'm learning bad habits (to do M turns for the PLL H-perm, for example, I have to rotate two slices of the cube, then the outer layer back, and use my whole wrist to do it), so I kind of solve slowly while trying to get faster at remembering the 7 cross OLL cases. I haven't even tried to improve on my PR for a few days. Basically I'm just waiting for my Zhanchi before I try again, which is still probably over a week away from arriving. :(

Welcome, fellow Canadian! Watch out... you may not care much about "crazy techniques" and getting too fast yet, but you will soon be hooked to the cube and will no longer be satisfied with 1-minute solves.

Yeah, I fear this is going to be the case with me, haha. But first things first, let's get a real cube and aim for under a minute!
 
I also wanted to comment on just how terrible the Rubik's brand cubes are. I don't know if anyone from Rubik's reads these forums or will ever see this, but...

I use a Rubiks as my main. I still get decent averages with it, even though most people think it is terrible!! :) It is mostly because I like the clicky feeling of my Rubiks brand, and have yet to find a nice "speedcube" that has a feel I enjoy!
 
This is why I think cubing is somewhat like a drug addiction. You constantly need faster and faster times just to feel as happy as you used to. Always looking for that next PB to give you a high. :p

Truth :P

I can't stand skipping over a scramble. For all I know it could be my next PB. That being said I only really have a large reaction to low to sub 7 now. High sevens are like "oh meh that should've been better" lol
 
I use a Rubiks as my main. I still get decent averages with it, even though most people think it is terrible!!

Interesting... I'm sure you've modded it heavily though, with lubrication or grinding down the inside with sand or whatnot? My point wasn't so much that Rubik's brand cubes can't become good, but rather their out of the box performance removes a lot of enjoyment from the puzzle. Rubik's cubes should be fun to turn, and the "official" brand should be near the top of that aspect, imo, since they kind of represent the hobby to people like me who knew nothing about cubing.

High sevens are like "oh meh that should've been better" lol

I'll trade you this problem for any problem of mine, lol.
 
Right now it's only a few per day (3-4) because I simply can't stand the base cube locking up/taking huge effort to turn, plus I fear I'm learning bad habits (to do M turns for the PLL H-perm, for example, I have to rotate two slices of the cube, then the outer layer back, and use my whole wrist to do it), so I kind of solve slowly while trying to get faster at remembering the 7 cross OLL cases. I haven't even tried to improve on my PR for a few days. Basically I'm just waiting for my Zhanchi before I try again, which is still probably over a week away from arriving. :(

Okay, interesting to hear. I'm also waiting for my cube to arrive, hope to get it this week so around the same time as you ;)
I just solve cubes all day because its vacation this week xD
 
An update!

So after 3 weeks, my Zhanchi finally arrived. It was pretty painful "practicing" on the Rubik's brand. I did my best to work on color recognition and all the things that are cube-independent, but not being able to try finger tricks or fast algorithms meant I didn't attempt PRs for most of that time, instead just tried to slowly work through solves. Anyway, it's hard to believe the difference in quality between the Zhanchi and the Rubik's brand. Like I said in my first post, for people like me who had no idea about cubes, Rubik's brand cubes were the only ones I had ever held or turned, so I didn't really know what to expect when I got to play with a "real" cube. I think my Zhanchi needs some lube (but again, I'm too new to really know what it should feel like), but even in its current state the contrast between the two puzzles is almost hard to believe.

My PR with the Rubik's brand, using beginner's method and 2-look OLL and PLL, was 1:58. After only about 10-15 solves with the Zhanchi, my PR is now 1:06, with no change in method. The difference really is that dramatic. As I continue to learn how to control a cube that can actually turn (and maybe lube it a bit), I'm hoping to get an Ao12 below 1 minute, and then I will start trying to incorporate F2L into my solves. My cross is still beyond terrible, and I struggle with recognition on the first layer corner and second layer edge pieces sometimes (I'm improving pretty fast with the last layer though), but now that I know it's not the cube holding me back, I'll have more incentive to improve!

Also, it's worth noting that I recorded video footage of my 1:58 with the Rubik's brand, and a 1:09 solve tonight. I'm going to keep recording when I have some major breakthroughs in times (my first good F2L time maybe, and then my first sub-30 time if it ever gets to that), and then I'm going to splice all the footage together and make a Youtube video out of it, showing my progress over time. I think it'll be really neat to see how far I've come by watching my solves next to each other in real time.
 
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There is a guide in How to section. It give you tips on what to do to get for example a 20 second solve and stuff like that :)
See that :)

And how many months started cubing ?
 
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