Help with M2 moves

[Mozza314]

I'm having a lot of trouble performing the M2 moves in the H and Z permutations. I've been using these algorithms:

H: M2 U M2 U2 M2 U M2
Z: M2 U M2 U M U2 M2 U2 M U2

I might consider swapping to algorithms without M2 moves but none of those look suitable and M2 moves seem quite fast when they are done properly. The guides I've seen advise using the index and middle fingers of the right hand, and I've been trying to do that but my fingers get stuck on the back right down corner. I often find myself doing about 1/4 of an R' move and reaching on top of the U face with my middle finger and doing the 180degree turn with that finger alone, but I don't think this is preferable.

Any advice?

 

[Spyyder]

I use my ring finger on my right hand, and i usually tilt my hand a little so my finger doesnt catch on corner piece.

watch the vids for those algs on http://www.cubewhiz.com/pll.html. easiest way ive found to do it.

 

[Asmium]

One option could be to switch to one hand algorithms if M2 is really really really an issue.

Another way would be to do the M2 moves be:
1.doing and Lw' follwed by an M and an L move... kinda confusing but watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsnNBtUVuu0&feature=related half way through he shows M2 which might help you

 

[Tox|k]

Check out Bob Burtons page. He has videos on how he does all the OLL and PLL algs with fingertricks in fast and slow versions. They may or may not be useful for helping you with M2's (which I don't particularily like to do either), but at the very least, seeing him do them so blazing fast is pretty impressive.

 

[Mozza314]

Check out Bob Burtons page. He has videos on how he does all the OLL and PLL algs with fingertricks in fast and slow versions. They may or may not be useful for helping you with M2's (which I don't particularily like to do either), but at the very least, seeing him do them so blazing fast is pretty impressive.

Yeah I use that page. You just linked to the same page as Spyyder

 

[cookingfat]

a very easy algorithm for the H perm is R2 U2 R U2 R2 U2 R2 U2 R U2 R2

I use this on my 4x4x4 as slice moves are hard to perform fast.

as for M slices on a 3x3x3, I use my left ring finger if U follows, or my right ring finger if a U' follows for M2 I use my ring then middle finger for the second turn to make it faster.

 

[*LukeMayn*]

Also another easy and high TPS one is:

U R' U' R U' R U R U' R' U R U R2 U' R' U

 

[kratos94]

I just use what Bob Burton explains it works really well except for the fact that at the beginning it feels awkward especially with a tight cube. After you do it enough it gets easy and becomes insanely fast

 

[DAE_JA_VOO]

I do an R', but slightly more than an R', and the hook the corner of the M slice with my ring finger, and then basically do an R.

 

[Lotsofsloths]

I can easily do .91(sub .90 if I try) using this alg:
(M2' U' M2') U' U' (M2' U' M2')

form the M2' I use a push towards me with my right ring finger, then a second push with my right middle finger. The U' is preformed with a flick of the left index.

 

[Vulosity]

For M2, I use a right ring finger flick, then a left ring finger flick.

 

[DavidWoner]

here are a lot of different ways to do H-perm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyZGXdOoSFo

for z-perm, you should consider switching to the RU version, its quite fast.

I use (R' U' R2 U)(R U R' U' R U R U')(R U' R' U2) and it is one of my faster algs during speedsolves. The fingertricks for the start and end are a little odd, I need to make a video of this...

or you could try the Dan Knights Z-perm, one of my friends is easily sub-2 with it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIhBDPL-vlo