Gan 12

I feel like GAN cube release are going down in quality, originality and performance a lot. Compared to other brands they usually aren't the best you can get for the price. (Like my friends GAN I used for about 1 hour)
You might have something there. From the video I have seen, there is a concern with corner cutting in this cube. ;)

It seems there is some active weight reduction going on in the cube pieces to make up for the added weight in Gan 12's magnets. The Leap does not have Maglev magnets, but it is still lighter than the Gan 11 M Pro (61g vs 63g). The Maglev version at 66g is only 3g heavier than the Gan 11 M Pro. The Moyu RS3M 2021 Maglev shows that 7g was added from such a change to maglev, when everything else is unchanged. The "wings" of the pieces of Gan 12 have changed and are now slimmer. The plastic casing of the pieces seems thinner to me. When viewed at some angles, a faint shadow can be seen on the centre cap, esp the red one in the review videos. Could that be due to the thinner cap and the effect of the dark blue tension dial inside showing through? Whether that is actually true or whether it makes the cube flimsier are still not known at this time. Remember that all the reviews so far are on pre-production models and they don't seem to have the UV coating, which should help to cover up any cosmetic imperfections as well as strengthen the pieces. I am confident Gan would not release any product with obvious quality issues.

Speaking of weight, I think there is likely another change that could affect turning, and this is clearly shown in the Gancube pictures. The corner pieces now have magnet rods that are longer than previously in the Gan 11, while the core magnets rods on the core are shorter. This means the corner pieces are now heavier and their centre of gravity are closer to the core, the effect of which on rotational force and smoothness (evenness) is not clear though.
 
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I'm seeing a lot of people rip on this cube and discredit it, as well as Gan as a company. Let's talk about that.

First, a lot of people are overlooking the fact that they have realigned the magnets to have a 30 degree range for the corner edge attraction, like on the 251 Leap 2x2. It helps with accuracy and fluidity of turning as a result, at least in my experience. I'll have to get the cube and test this to find out how much of a difference it makes first hand, but I think it will help with turning fluidity which is a good thing to have due to maglev.

Next, let's talk about maglev cubes. I bought the RS3M with maglev to swap the maglev hardware into my CH corner-core magenetized WRM21 to test how much of a difference it makes. It's a bit subtle, especially if you haven't tried many cubes, but I noticed that it made the cube noticeably smoother and faster, especially at loose tensions. I quite like this effect personally. Is this a huge deal? No. It mostly is just another type of feeling you can get from a cube. However, because of how easy it makes turning, I can see this being beneficial for longer solving sessions and for more complicated fingertricks as moves become easier to do in trickier situations. Some might say it's not worth it for those extra situations, but again this is called a "Pro" cube, and that is something pros will notice. Small improvements are still improvements. As far as weight goes, I'm personally someone who really likes light-weight, easy to turn cubes, and I still don't think the weight difference matters all that much. Because the extra weight is in the center pieces, it doesn't add any weighting to the turns.

Cubes and cube companies are becoming increasingly like smartphones and the smartphone market. Pretty much all modern phones are good enough, just like most modern cubes are good enough. However, there's room for higher end products to exist in both markets. Gan has established itself as a high-end, essentially luxury cube brand. They are going to maintain high prices for that very reason. Plus they do still innovate, whether people will admit it or not. For example, the maglev RS3M brought maglev to mass production, but it's really just slapping two disc magnets into the core and calling it a day, while the Gan appears to be using some plastic casings that looks like it will be much more precise to adjust. Most people don't bemoan luxury cars existing even though there's no way they would buy a million dollar car. Similarly, there's no reason to complain that high-end cubes are expensive either.
 
I'm seeing a lot of people rip on this cube and discredit it, as well as Gan as a company.
Yes, because we think GAN is trying to make the same cube, except with longer core-corner magnets, maglev and pieces. I don't see the benefit of this. Stronger repulsion? Why, better stability? Don't we get that without core-corner magnets? (only pros would notice!)
Next, let's talk about maglev cubes. I bought the RS3M with maglev to swap the maglev hardware into my CH corner-core magenetized WRM21 to test how much of a difference it makes. It's a bit subtle, especially if you haven't tried many cubes, but I noticed that it made the cube noticeably smoother and faster, especially at loose tensions. I quite like this effect personally. Is this a huge deal? No. It mostly is just another type of feeling you can get from a cube. However, because of how easy it makes turning, I can see this being beneficial for longer solving sessions and for more complicated fingertricks as moves become easier to do in trickier situations. Some might say it's not worth it for those extra situations, but again this is called a "Pro" cube, and that is something pros will notice. Small improvements are still improvements. As far as weight goes, I'm personally someone who really likes light-weight, easy to turn cubes, and I still don't think the weight difference matters all that much. Because the extra weight is in the center pieces, it doesn't add any weighting to the turns.
Yes. Both the RS3M and the WRM 2021 have the same type of core. Won't you think it would just be easier if every company comes out with a maglev core replacement for their cubes? Since the 12 and 11 are so similar, won't you think that simply taking the core out of the 12, and putting it in the 11 be better (provided they have the same type of core)? I don't hate the maglev system, no, not at all. I agree that its good, but the thing is, 40 + 14 = $54. You get adjustable magnets, the maglev system, and the corner core magnets for 54 dollars. It follows the same pattern, but it cuts costs by 24 dollars. 24. A very significant decrease, but keeping the same features that the GAN 12 has. It also has a spring compression system, but why? Extra stability? Isn't maglev enough? Or is it a backup plan for them if maglev fails?
Cubes and cube companies are becoming increasingly like smartphones and the smartphone market. Pretty much all modern phones are good enough, just like most modern cubes are good enough. However, there's room for higher end products to exist in both markets. Gan has established itself as a high-end, essentially luxury cube brand. They are going to maintain high prices for that very reason. Plus they do still innovate, whether people will admit it or not. For example, the maglev RS3M brought maglev to mass production, but it's really just slapping two disc magnets into the core and calling it a day, while the Gan appears to be using some plastic casings that looks like it will be much more precise to adjust. Most people don't bemoan luxury cars existing even though there's no way they would buy a million dollar car. Similarly, there's no reason to complain that high-end cubes are expensive either.
I'm going to highlight this part: The maglev RS3M brought maglev to mass production, but it's really just slapping two disc magnets into the core and calling it a day Is it, though? Does it have multiple settings? Yes. Does it have only one setting? No. Is it slapping to disc magnets to the core?
Yes. Is the RS3M cheap? Yes. Imagine the early days of the magnet. Very expensive, but once the Z magnetic came out, everyone wanted one. Now they're dirt cheap. What if this was the case with maglev? GAN came with Maglev first. No one wanted it because of the ridiculous price, except "pros" and 11 year old rich cubers who asked their parents. The RS3M 2021 came out. Everyone got it. Its cheap, and it does almost all the things that the Gan 12 does (except adjm, and core-corner magnets.) Then, another cube came out. It had everything, including adjm and core-corner and maglev, but for $35 dollars. 35 dollars against 78? It's a no brainer. Basically, cube companies take ideas from other cube companies and put their own spin on it. Is it a coincidence that the promotions for the GAN 12 started immediately after the RS3M 2021 was announced? Who knows? MoYu still has the patent, but they even released a statement about GAN, albeit not referencing them directly. Why? Because MoYu came out with it first (Not really, because Chris Tran first introduced the idea of the maglev, but MoYu got the patent.).
 
Basically, cube companies take ideas from other cube companies and put their own spin on it. Is it a coincidence that the promotions for the GAN 12 started immediately after the RS3M 2021 was announced?
It's interesting how you can draw different conclusions from the same data. Of course it's not a coincidence but that doesn't look like taking other's idea at all.

Gan releasing unpolished info the day after moyu is basically a message "we are working on the same idea independently"
 
Until the cube is available, we are all just speculating based on the specs, marketing material and early reviews, which are most likely based on pre-production samples and comments of early reviewers who may have different viewpoints from ours.
 
However, there's room for higher end products to exist in both markets. Gan has established itself as a high-end, essentially luxury cube brand. They are going to maintain high prices for that very reason. Most people don't bemoan luxury cars existing even though there's no way they would buy a million dollar car. Similarly, there's no reason to complain that high-end cubes are expensive either.

I own like 20 Gan cubes I have no problem with most Gan prices and am lucky enough to get pretty much whatever cubes I want.

$80. for a Maglev Gan 12 is still ridiculous.
 
ruihang xu & Matty Hiroto Inaba made a video testing it out I think Feliks & max may also try it and make a video
Feliks came out of hibernation and di some Twitch streams showing the GAN 12. He even got a sub-5 average on it! I don't know about Max but I find it funny that the only event Max mains a GAN is OH.
 
pre-order at SCS, scheduled to ship this week:


$78. for the Maglev

I'd really like to try it but I think I'll wait for a good sale, lol
 
The prices of the new Gan cubes are only a few dollars/euro/gbp more than the previous cubes. I think because cubing is popular among a mainly younger demographic then price is an issue. But as a hobby it is easy to get into and if the top end cube is 80 dollars then thats a pittance compared to other hobbies. For a cost of a meal out or a night on the beers at a football match you could spend more than the cost of the cubing hobbies premium item it kind of puts it into perspective. There is a wide range of cubes to choose from and really the difference between performance in the budget to more expensive cubes is not really that wide. It’s just you get that little bit extra if you pay a little bit more.
 
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