G-Perm Memorization Help?

[NebraskanSpeedsolver]

Title says it all.
I have them written down, but over the course of about a week I cannot get them down.
Suggestions?

 

[ProStar]

That completely depends on which G-perms you’re using

 

[SkewbIsTheBestEvent]

For me, what helps is to just do the G perm over and over again, take a break, and then try to do it again, then repeat. If you forget it then you can just re-learn it again.

 

[NebraskanSpeedsolver]

That completely depends on which G-perms you’re using

Cubeskills

 

[NebraskanSpeedsolver]

For me, what helps is to just do the G perm over and over again, take a break, and then try to do it again, then repeat. If you forget it then you can just re-learn it again.

That's kind of the approach I've been taking to it, it just doesn't seem to click

 

[artless1der]

That's kind of the approach I've been taking to it, it just doesn't seem to click

as Prostar pointed out, depends which algs you use, but

my understanding is that the 4 G-perms comprise 2 pairs of algs which are sort of mirrors to each other

so if you start with a solved cube
and do one of a pair of the algs, the other alg in the pair will solve the cube back again, and vice versa

so you can actually practice both algs in a pair, over and over, and then reverse which alg goes first...
this will also help you to focus and gain better understanding for recognition

once you get comfortable with your memorization and performance with the first pair of G-perm algs, you can switch to the other pair

you'll have them down sooner than you might think

 

[Running for cube]

You just kinda, do it.

 

[NebraskanSpeedsolver]

as Prostar pointed out, depends which algs you use, but

my understanding is that the 4 G-perms comprise 2 pairs of algs which are sort of mirrors to each other

so if you start with a solved cube
and do one of a pair of the algs, the other alg in the pair will solve the cube back again, and vice versa

so you can actually practice both algs in a pair, over and over, and then reverse which alg goes first...
this will also help you to focus and gain better understanding for recognition

once you get comfortable with your memorization and performance with the first pair of G-perm algs, you can switch to the other pair

you'll have them down sooner than you might think

I found that yesterday, but with all due respect, its not working like you said it would. I have probably been doing that for at least a few hours, nothing is clicking at all, after trying to go 1x1

 

[GloopyGum]

I kind of keep G perms in my memory by the way my hands move, which is not really the case for other PLLs. I would watch other people's G perms on YT and try to mirror their hand movement. On a side note though, G perms are kinda satisfying to pull off well during a solve.

I recommend watching Jperm's PLL video

 

[artless1der]

I found that yesterday, but with all due respect, its not working like you said it would. I have probably been doing that for at least a few hours, nothing is clicking at all, after trying to go 1x1

you may have already run into this, but
a good way of getting algs into memory is to break the sequence down into trigger groups

for example, the Sune: R U R' U R U2 R'

R U R' takes the front right corner+edge pair out, U moves it over to the left, and R U2 R' inserts it back into the slot

I find this is also helpful bcoz it makes it easier to visually track what is happening to the pieces on the cube as you do an alg

 

[Bingus Ringus McDingus]

I tend to memorize things by the feel. I tend to not memorize the algorithm notation itself, I just memorize the fingertricks. For example, I learned all my G Perms from J Perm's PLL video. I paid no attention to the notation and just followed along with his fingertricks. So even though I can't tell you the notation off the top of my head I can do all of the G Perms without thinking. And I follow along with the sound of my cube as well, but that's kind of a neurodivergent thing to be sound sensitive so it doesn't really apply to most cubers.

 

[cubenerd74]

You just kinda, do it.

Same lol

 

[Spencer131]

spaced repetition is the best way to learn algs

you want to practice the algs spaced out because it doesn't help to practice the same alg multiple times in a row. when you get an algorithm right, you can practice it less, and when you get an algorithm wrong, you need to practice it more

the cubingapp trainer does spaced repetition for you, and I've used it to learn CLL, EG1, and PLL

 

[Discomantis]

For me, what helped is learning what the PLL felt like in my hands. That might seem hard, but if you break the PLL up into parts, that helps too, as learning one part is easier than learning the entire PLL.

When you are learning it in parts though, make sure that you don't confuse your brain into thinking that the part corresponds to the entire PLL algorithm.

In other words, don't try and recognize the PLL, and then do one part, as that will make your brain think that the part of the PLL is the entire PLL.

Also, you will notice similarities in the G perms as you go on. For example, I noticed that U' D R2 and a lot of turns of the U and R layer afterwards came up in Gb and Gd, and the same thing is true for Ga except U' D R2 was U D' R2.

Learning G perms is definitely frustrating, so if you are frustrated, you aren't alone. I slammed my table while learning G perms a few times.

 

[NebraskanSpeedsolver]

Thanks for the help everyone! I will update my progression thread as I learn each alg

 

[artless1der]

Thanks for the help everyone! I will update my progression thread as I learn each alg

also, while it is important to understand what is happening with the moves you make doing an alg, the eventual goal is to build it up in your muslce memory so that when you do solves and an alg case comes up, you don't have to think about it (or consciously remember)...
And you can work on that by repetition, even if it's slow, your muscles are learning to do the moves in the right sequence, and over time you will get faster/better at it