Full PLL is killing me!

[rjohnson_8ball]

I found the best way to learn full PLL was to procrastinate it over a 6 month period, while slowly learning algs, and then learn all the G-perms in a day after that 6 month period.

hey! same here man! *high fives*

Similar to what I was thinking. I started by first learning what seemed most useful (or interesting) to finish a solve. Once you learn an extra PLL algorithm, try to use it whenever you need to. Eventually they will be quite natural. I suggest starting with the A-perms and U-perms, and recognizing that a simple 90 degree turn of the top face can change a swap of 2 pieces into a 3 way cycle.

 

[piemaster]

Just do the algorithm about 10 times. Then try it without looking at the sheet. Then try it without looking at at the cube. This should work. If it doesn't, just repeat the process.

For most people, the best way to learn full PLL, or a set of algorithms in general, is to learn 1 or 2 a day.

Bwahaha. fail.

 

[dunpeal2064]

ok... i'm not too sure on names of algs.... U perm is edges clock and counter and A perm is corners clock and counter? if so i learned these ones first, to have a 2 look pll where i can fix corners and edges from anywhere.... and some of the awkward pll algs stood out so i learned those.... the G perms seem super rough.

 

[piemaster]

Nah. It doesn't.

 

[Rikane]

I'd have to say the G perms were really short compared to the Y and T

 

[V-te]

I found the best way to learn full PLL was to procrastinate it over a 6 month period, while slowly learning algs, and then learn all the G-perms in a day after that 6 month period.

hey! same here man! *high fives*

You can always spread it out over 3 months instead?

 

[Muesli]

I found the best way to learn full PLL was to procrastinate it over a 6 month period, while slowly learning algs, and then learn all the G-perms in a day after that 6 month period.

hey! same here man! *high fives*

You can always spread it out over 3 months instead?

Or 3 weeks. Trust me, it's not that difficult.

 

[V-te]

I found the best way to learn full PLL was to procrastinate it over a 6 month period, while slowly learning algs, and then learn all the G-perms in a day after that 6 month period.

hey! same here man! *high fives*

You can always spread it out over 3 months instead?

Or 3 weeks. Trust me, it's not that difficult.

Well I learned over the summer, so I found it way easier.

 

[Kxg]

I'd have to say the G perms were really short compared to the Y and T

Y and T are way easier than G's.

Personally, when I went full PLL I learnt 2-3 algorithms a day (that is, both J's in one day, both R's in next, etc.). That might not work you - if you see you keep forgetting them, increase the amount of time for one algorithm. Say, 1 day. If that still isn't enough, give it a few days. Having done bit more than half I took a break (almost a week, I think) to make sure I learnt them good and worked on recognision. My second half included both N's and all 4 G's. Actually, memorising them wasn't as hard as I expected. My execution on N's and sometimes G's still fails, though (been quite a while since I learnt them).

 

[StachuK1992]

I learned all PLLs apart from Gs in about 2 weeks.
Then I waited like 5 months.
Then I learned the Gs.

Then I forgot them.
Then I waited 5 more months.
Then I learned the Gs.

 

[Deleted member 4527]

well you should be able to recognize the PLLs while doing 2 look PLL, there are only 21 cases and a lot of them are mirrors. Don't learn all of them at once, I assume you already know H, Z, U, A and E, so from there learn the easy ones first like J and R. go slowly, one at a time. It's not too bad.

also, good luck learning full OLL

 

[DavidSanders]

I found the best way to learn full PLL was to procrastinate it over a 6 month period, while slowly learning algs, and then learn all the G-perms in a day after that 6 month period.

hey! same here man! *high fives*

*High fives back* Best way ever.

 

[Edward]

Just do the algorithm about 10 times. Then try it without looking at the sheet. Then try it without looking at at the cube. This should work. If it doesn't, just repeat the process.

For most people, the best way to learn full PLL, or a set of algorithms in general, is to learn 1 or 2 a day.

Bwahaha. fail.

How did I fail?

 

[~Phoenix Death~]

Good luck learning OLL.

For OLL, you only have to do the Cross. Then there's only 7 to recognize.

 

[4Chan]

Good luck learning OLL.

For OLL, you only have to do the Cross. Then there's only 7 to recognize.

Hurrr

Learning algs is all about determination. It's all about how much you want it.

 

[rubiknewbie]

Don't bother getting full PLL until you are sub-30, then go for full-PLL, wait for sub-25, then full OLL.

I waited a bit longer on OLL, but this is my recomendation.

Idk, it really depends. I learned full PLL to push me under 30 and right now I am at 24 with 3LLL, though my F2L average is around 13s and my LL is around 10-12.....I think you should become fast with the algorithms you know instead of learning new ones.

That's the problem for me. I know the full OLL and PLL but I am slow with them :fp. It is more important to be fast with the algorithms than to know them all.

To be fast with all algorithms is ideal of course.

I found the best way to learn full PLL was to procrastinate it over a 6 month period, while slowly learning algs, and then learn all the G-perms in a day after that 6 month period.

I think G-perms should be learnt first since they are so common and keep popping up!

I'd have to say the G perms were really short compared to the Y and T

Y and T are way easier than G's.

Personally, when I went full PLL I learnt 2-3 algorithms a day (that is, both J's in one day, both R's in next, etc.). That might not work you - if you see you keep forgetting them, increase the amount of time for one algorithm. Say, 1 day. If that still isn't enough, give it a few days. Having done bit more than half I took a break (almost a week, I think) to make sure I learnt them good and worked on recognision. My second half included both N's and all 4 G's. Actually, memorising them wasn't as hard as I expected. My execution on N's and sometimes G's still fails, though (been quite a while since I learnt them).

I think N is still the most difficult to execute fast. I still haven't found the perfect algorithm for it.

 

[Tim Major]

Good luck learning OLL.

For OLL, you only have to do the Cross. Then there's only 7 to recognize.

:fpHe means full OLL. F R U R' U' F', OR F U R U' R' F' OR f R U R' U' f then the OLL is around 2 seconds slower than full OLL.

 

[HarryOng]

I learn all 21 pll in 1 week. I practice bout 4hours perday because there is a rubik competition in my country in 2 weeks time.

 

[Edward]

I learn all 21 pll in 1 week. I practice bout 4hours perday because there is a rubik competition in my country in 2 weeks time.

Good for you. Please don't bump a thread if your not going to contribute.

 

[vuaquyen92]

it took me 3 days because I want to learn it for the match with my friends
So if you want to learn it, you should compete with someone then you will get the determination
Also try learn it by your finger tricks