full PLL (3look)

[doubleyou]

AvG recently taught me the final PLL I needed for a complete 4LLL.

I am already getting used to it. So I decided to go for the final PLLs.

Yesterday I got 4 more of those "easy recognizeable" cases. So now I only miss the odd ones and the combinations.

I watched Thrawst's videos on youtube the other day and at one point he said that all the combination-PLL cases were almost the same.

And I dont think it would be any harder to learn the algs. but how do you recognize them? I imagine that you can somehow say like: "Its none of the other cases, so I can decide on that".

But how can you do this fast? There are four of them.. Two are reflections of the others, so its only two more algs to learn.. But recognizion?

Please share strategy and tips!!

-Sigurd

ps. wow getting the first half of the PLL cases were alot easier than I thought. I also already got 35 of the OLL cases, so I am pretty happy with that too.

I already get 2 Look LL much more often.

 

[KJiptner]

You'll very soon be able to recognize the patterns by blocks of countinous colours. When I learned PLL I had a print-sheet with the diagrams and painted all pieces on the diagrams that are not affected/moved (and so will result in solved "colour-blocks") with a bright marker. If you do that you'll see that the formed blocks alone are very unique from pattern to pattern. The hardest to recognize will be the 4 G-Permutations but this is also not too hard:
Every G-Permutation has 1) 2 Corners with the same colour on a face and 2) a 2x1 "colour-block". You can determine which G you have by the relation of those 2 things

 

[doubleyou]

Thank you KJipter, that was exactly what I was looking for!
recognition like the other cases, but two mathcing colors and one block. gotto remember that..

now I just gotto learn them to get nearer the 3-Look

I was practicing today with timer and all, and I found that I began to panic when I was getting one of the new PLLs. But I kept reminding myself that if I did it slowly I would cut in the time anyway cuz of the 1 Look PLL instead of 2 I am used to.

 

[KJiptner]

Originally posted by doubleyou@Apr 22 2007, 07:44 PM
Thank you KJipter,

@all

calling me "Kai" would be much appriciated

I'm glad I could help

 

[doubleyou]

sure Kai! I am new to this forum and I dont know many people yet.

ok, I found that I have been able to recognize those cases all the time. But it took your word to trigger me

I used to (and still do until I get those G perms) do what I call 1? look PLL. This is probably possible in much more cases but I accidentially found this one and use it.

when I see two matching corners on one face I always keep them on the back. then I look at the color on the front left and match it up (U correction). now, if the piece have one more piece behind it matching I can do the 1? PLL. I do the cycle then before I finish the alg I have found that the ending of that alg and the beginning of next edge cycle cancel them selves out. so I skip that and do the whole thing as one.

this is probably welknown "add ons" I dunno

this case is in fact a G Perm.

right?

 

[Arakron]

If you're doing an edge and a corner cycle for your G-perm with cancellations/without looking again to do the second cycle, then it's just that you have a somewhat inefficient alg for that perm. But it'd still be 1-look.

 

[doubleyou]

I dont mean that I have created a G Perm.
just that I did/do the two cycles in one go and without some of the moves in between.

cant wait to learn the real alg

I just asked if I recognized the case right.. I do a wrong alg - I know

 

[AvGalen]

For recognition of all PLL-cases (actually all last layer cases) you can use this trainer that was made by Alexander Ooms. You can recognize any PLL by looking at 2 faces only. If you can do that, you have mastered PLL recognition. (I haven't, but you will pretty soon I guess)

 

[Arakron]

Originally posted by doubleyou@Apr 23 2007, 09:59 AM
I dont mean that I have created a G Perm.
just that I did/do the two cycles in one go and without some of the moves in between.

cant wait to learn the real alg

I just asked if I recognized the case right.. I do a wrong alg - I know

It's not a "wrong" alg, it's just a long alg. If you see you need a corner and edge cycle, look away, do some moves, look back, and it's solved, youve just done a G perm, regardless of how efficient (or not) your solution was.
To answer your real question, yes, the cases where you need a 3-cycle of corners and a 3-cycle of edges without a U adjustment in between are G perms.

 

[doubleyou]

you guys are the best!

thanks for your help!

when I was starting out I thougth that it was possible that I would find cubing to be "boring" when it became easier, when you get more used to it. "too easy".

to exact opposit is the truth