Euro 2014 - Roskilde, Denmark - August 8-10th, 2014

kinch2002 said:
From my experience, for finals it has meant #European competitors. In the last 2 Euros, Amos Tay and Rowe made finals, and an 'extra' competitor was added. Not sure about earlier rounds.
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Yep I was there, and in Wroclaw, people were added in the finals, but not in the earlier rounds.

But it hadn't been announced before the competition, that's why I'm asking for clarifications :)

Thanks Oscar !
 
Kev43 said:
Yep I was there, and in Wroclaw, people were added in the finals, but not in the earlier rounds.

But it hadn't been announced before the competition, that's why I'm asking for clarifications :)

Thanks Oscar !
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all 16 people proceeds has been changed to 12 europeans + non-europeans
feet has been changed to 8 europeans proceeds + Louis (hehe)
 
(X) said:
Does this mean that if the top12 people are european, the best non-europeans still proceeds?
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WCA Regulations said:
9g2) Whether a competitor proceeds to next phase of a Combined round, must be decided by ranking (best x competitors) or by result (all competitors with a best result under x) of the first phase.
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That should answer your question.

hint: The limit of people proceeding is based on the 12th european's result.
 
Carrot said:
all 16 people proceeds has been changed to 12 europeans + non-europeans
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Wow, finals just got a lot harder.

EDIT/unrelated:
I just looked at the participant map on this page (http://competition.odderen.dk/Euro2014/?site=Competitors) and Germany has the most competitors so far. Is that the first time at a big tournament that the most represented nationality is not the one where it's being held (provided Denmark doesn't overtake us :p)?

EDIT 2:
I looked wrong. Denmark actually has 33 and Germany 31. But my question still stands. Would it be the first time?
 
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Yes said:
Wow, finals just got a lot harder.

EDIT/unrelated:
I just looked at the participant map on this page (http://competition.odderen.dk/Euro2014/?site=Competitors) and Germany has the most competitors so far. Is that the first time at a big tournament that the most represented nationality is not the one where it's being held (provided Denmark doesn't overtake us :p)?

EDIT 2:
I looked wrong. Denmark actually has 33 and Germany 31. But my question still stands. Would it be the first time?
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For 3x3x3, it's about the same (judging from all registrations including the unpaid ones) :) (there was a chance that 5 non-europeans would make it to the final, making Finals even harder)
Look out for the swedish people! but in newer times, yes.

EDIT: just checked the DB, if you include all registrations that hasn't been paid yet the top 3 is: Sweden: 38, Denmark: 35, Germany: 34 :)
 
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Getting into the finals. With 5 people from outside of europe it is very unlikely that there will be 4 or more non-europeans in the final, making it more difficult to qualify for the final than if 16 people would qualify. Chances are there will be less than 16 people in the final now. Taking into account the level of the non-europeans.
 
Antonie faz fan said:
Are the non europeans able to get on the podium?
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Define "podium"...

Sigh. This is just a WCA competition like all the others, with only difference that we assign random titles (random, because completely irrelevant from WCA-perspective) to the best Europeans.
 
(X) said:
Getting into the finals. With 5 people from outside of europe it is very unlikely that there will be 4 or more non-europeans in the final, making it more difficult to qualify for the final than if 16 people would qualify. Chances are there will be less than 16 people in the final now. Taking into account the level of the non-europeans.
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Yes, exactly.


Pro: You have a fix number of European competitors to go through to the final. Nobody is going to feel like their spot got taken by a Non-European.
Con: Ultimately, you are most likely letting fewer people compete in the final (like (X) said). Especially at big competitions, I think 12 people is too few. Many top competitors feel a lot of pressure in the semi final (which is normal and it's the way it should be since it should be very competitive and difficult to reach the final) but it should also not be so brutal.
What I can see happening is potential title winners not go through to the final because they end up 14th or something. We shouldn't make it easy and yes, you need to bring your A game but 12 is a little harsh in my opinion. The overall objective should be to have the best competitor win and I think 16 would the right balance between competitive and encouraging.
 
Yes said:
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The overall objective should be to have the best competitor win and I think 16 would the right balance between competitive and encouraging.
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I respect your opinions, but can you objectively justify why 12 is too harsh?
 
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Sebastien said:
Define "podium"...

Sigh. This is just a WCA competition like all the others, with only difference that we assign random titles (random, because completely irrelevant from WCA-perspective) to the best Europeans.
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Calling to the podium, as example: Rowe hessler got 2nd place at euro2012 at 4x4 does this mean that at the winners ceremony they call 1st Mats 2nd Rowe 3rd Erik or did the call 1st Mats 2nd Erik and 3rd Masimiliano?
 
Antonie faz fan said:
Calling to the podium, as example: Rowe hessler got 2nd place at euro2012 at 4x4 does this mean that at the winners ceremony they call 1st Mats 2nd Rowe 3rd Erik or did the call 1st Mats 2nd Erik and 3rd Masimiliano?
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The only difference that that the title of 'European Champion' will go to the highest ranking European in each event. Rowe could win but Mats would be European Champion in 2nd place.
 
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