EKA Corners with UFR buffer

guelda

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Hi guys,

just documenting here my progression on "transition-method" 3BLD.

So after trying Eka Edges (UF buffer, UR helper) + Eka (Orozco + doing Bx alg) for a bit, I'm trying to do some Eka-Corner stuff, adapting the idea (UBL (A) buffer, FRD (K) helper) from the russian site to UFR (C) buffer and BDR (S) helper, not to "lose" the Bx algs I've learned.
The purpose is to use shorter setup moves (ie. 1-2 instead of 1-3) than the ones to set up first letter to B, especially for letters A, I, N, P, Q and T. This allows following the other sticker to be easier.

I'll then know B and S sets, slowly moving to 3style.
I guess a lot of you will go "just learn 3style", I get it, I guess "to each his own"
🙂


Oh and for the parity, I'll do: (U' L U) Jb PLL (U' L' U)
 
Hi Abhijeet,

here is a link to a translation of the russian site I mentioned: https://twistypuzzles-ru.translate....ch=http&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=fr&_x_tr_hl=fr
Here is an extract:

The essence of the method:
The ULB cube is used as a buffer.
The first sticker of the chain is placed in the FRD position, this is done in 1-2 setup moves, and it is determined to which position the second sticker of the chain goes. Then one of 18 algorithms is done, and the setup move is done in reverse order.


For information, I also went back to the greatest post ever about intuitive 3-style: https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/intuitive-3-style-as-a-beginner-blind-method.77200/
(by the way, IMHO it would deserve to be in the "sticky" posts of the "Blindsolving Discussion" section of this forum!)

and decided to list all the setup moves for corners with U as the buffer/interchange layer, as dudefaceguy proposed, just to "verify" this part by myself:

This made it very easy for me to construct the commutators, since they all have the same structure. Using these 3 rules, you can solve any case using conjugates that are no more than 2 moves (the only exception is the corner case FA or QA for a U-face buffer, for which I recommend a 1-move conjugate that moves the buffer out of the interchange layer).


-> It appears like it is not exactly the case, as several cases seems to need 3-moves conjugates (the inverse as well of course, ie. "GI" and "IG" for example):

- GI
- KF, KG, KH, KT
- LF
- QG, QI, QK, QL, QO, QR, QS, QT, QU
- RS


So I guess having a backup plan for those cases is a bit better than using 3-moves conjugates.
It would seem like learning the BDF (S in Speffz) set can be useful for those cases, as you never need more than 2-moves conjugate to set up the 1st letter to BDF, and this implies that it is easier to follow where the 2nd letter goes meanwhile.


For edges, at the moment, it is not too difficult to set up the 1st letter to UR (B) and use the corresponding optimized set (ie. not only using the intuitive comms).
Of course practicing the inverse comm as well if it is easier to set up the 2nd letter to UR instead.
 
Just a comment to share my joy of having done my first real 3BLD solve, with the method described above for Corners, and Eka corners:

U R2 U' L2 F' D2 B D' B' U2 R U2 L U2 L B2 R' F2

- Corners : OX VE BF GB
- Edges : DS NP MA HG UV FA

5:23 with 3mn for memo

-> now that the algs seems integrated, time to work on memo!
 
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