Do you know all OLLs?

[guythatlikesOH]

My goal is to finish learning OLL before I finish learning PLL. For some reason I just never bothered to learn the second N-Perm...

 

[already1329]

I know almost all OLLs, but I'm not planning to learn the rest of them.

 

[redbeat0222]

I know full OLL and I'm learning COLL. I might learn full ZB.

 

[stevecho816]

I know full OLL. Took me the whole summer break to learn it like a year ago.

 

[Andri Maulana]

I learn to solve the cube since 2010, and there are some dot OLL i didn't know till this time. This is my comeback after a long breaks in 2012 though...

 

[ottozing]

It took me like 6 months to learn full OLL when I started getting "serious" Now though, I know like at least 2-3 OLLCP algs for each OLL :3

 

[kunparekh18]

Am at some 10 - 15 out of 57

 

[TiLiMayor]

I got to sub-20 without being full pll, and then got to sub-15 without being full oll.. There are a couple of algs I don't know (like wheelchairs), and some I'd like to change, it's not a big deal, but if someone, including me wants to get sub-12 consistently, full oll is a must..

 

[yoshinator]

There should be more options about learning COLL and OLLCP and stuffz

 

[cuber952]

The option I want to pick just isn't there. I don't know full OLL but it's not because it's too hard to learn. I am just too lazy and don't see a point to learn the dots. you can just do edge control, or a quick F R U R' U' F'.

 

[yoshinator]

I got to sub-20 without being full pll, and then got to sub-15 without being full oll.. There are a couple of algs I don't know (like wheelchairs), and some I'd like to change, it's not a big deal, but if someone, including me wants to get sub-12 consistently, full oll is a must..

Actually no. I can sub-12 with 3LLL, and I'm sure that sub-8 people can sub-10 with 4LLL

 

[cxinlee]

I'm nearly sub-18 with 3LLL, but I'm nearly done with the olls, though it's pretty hard for me.

 

[YddEd]

Who needs full OLL? Learnt around 2 more than 2 Look OLL and I don't use them so I forgot them.

 

[MarcelP]

I have started learning full OLL in December 2012. I have stopped a while because I started to mix them up (going too fast in learning new algs). Right now I know 48 out 57 OLL's. I was averaging around 29 seconds when I started to learn them and I am averaging 27 seconds now. I want to learn the rest but I am having problems finding motivation.

 

[o2gulo]

As much as I want to learn more cases, I really don't have the time (because of upcoming entrance exams and such) to do so. Still stuck at 2L-OLL and struggling to sub-20 O_O

 

[mark49152]

Some OLLs save 10 moves compared to 2-look. Some only save 1-2 moves and unless you're really fast already it's probably better to just ignore those and spend the practice time on F2L.

I learned the 15 OLLs that give the best move savings over 2-look. ~42% of the total move savings of full OLL are in just these 15 cases. As Marcel said above, the hard part is in recognising and recalling them, quickly and correctly, and even with a fairly small number it's taking me a long time to get that right. I don't know if I would ever bother learning algs for every OLL case, but probably not.

 

[Smiles]

here's what i did.

by the time i got to 1LOLL i wasn't fully left handed yet and was kinda ambidextrous because i started that way and learning algs was easier.
by being ambidextrous, it almost cut the number of cases in half (it was about 30 something) since almost everything had a mirror. this way i learned at least 6 cases a day, which was really only 3 algs so it was easy on the brain. i didn't try too hard in drilling and memorizing, so i often forgot a case a few days later. by the time i learned all of OLL, i ended up forgetting almost 10 cases i believe, and i was terrible at all of them of course since i never practiced them exclusively.
the important thing was i could get through all of the OLL algs pretty quickly.

but the big thing with this is i expected myself to know all of them. motivation? no need. i "already knew" all of the algs after less than 2 weeks, but of course i didn't actually. i would just forget and relearn an alg until i stopped forgetting it.

once all of OLL was in my fingers and smooth, i started changing algs i didn't like, and slowly converted everything to left handed because i finally made up my mind.

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okay this is actually pretty bad and an extremely suboptimal way of learning OLL since it took months to get the final product of knowing the right OLL algs.
HOWEVER there were no motivation or time issues when i was learning, which is what this thread talks about a lot i think.
plus the real deal is practicing F2L and overall efficiency, so having fast OLL finger tricks was never an important thing for me. it just came with time and i would switch algs with time as well, and within a week it'd be up to speed with my other algs.

 

[TMOY]

I voted 2-ook OLL because that's what I happen to know, but as a non-Fridrich user I really don't care about OLLs. PLLs are interesting to know because they are versatile algs (I use them mainly for BLD), but most OLLs are of no use outside Fridrich and thus not rexactly my priority to learn.

 

[Ross The Boss]

i know most of the OLLs. i use CFOP for big cubes so i need to know them. i think i should switch to CFCE though because i heard somewhere that all of the ELL cases can be done 2-gen.

 

[ottozing]

i know most of the OLLs. i use CFOP for big cubes so i need to know them. i think i should switch to CFCE though because i heard somewhere that all of the ELL cases can be done 2-gen.

If by 2 gen you mean R and U, then no, that's not the case. They can all be solved with R/Rw/M/U though.