Cubing for the Autistic

Should the group include other mental illnesses as well?

Sure, I think so. I think it could include anyone, as long as they are supportive. I would love to be part of the group so I can understand everyone's experiences better.

My vote would be yes, but if I'm going to try to set up a Facebook group, I'd like to hear what everyone else here wants as well. If someone else knows Facebook better than me, or thinks the group should be somewhere besides Facebook, feel free to offer to set it up, but please don't do it without getting approval from the others here. If we do decide to do this, it should be something that we're all on board with.

BTW, you're completely spot on with being better at communicating in writing than in person. That's definitely true of me, and lots of other autistic peeps.

I think the internet is definitely a blessing for many introverted people as well as people on the autistic spectrum. It can be a bit of a crutch though to avoid RL, but I also think some people improve their in-person communication capabilities by using the internet for "practice."
 
Sure, I think so. I think it could include anyone, as long as they are supportive. I would love to be part of the group so I can understand everyone's experiences better.

Since it was your idea, of course you should be in it. :) You definitely seem supportive, also. But I am a bit uncomfortable with people who aren't disabled being in it. We are grateful for people who are healthy yet want to help us anyway, and I really hope I'm not about to act ungrateful, but the point of a group like this wouldn't really just be getting kind words. What people like us really need is to talk to those who are like us. It helps us understand our strenghts, our weaknesses, our thinking style, how we'll be perceived by others, and tons of other stuff. We'll have a group of people who can understand each other based on firsthand experience. Having people there for us who are not disabled is wonderful, but having a group specifically created to support socially impaired people is something completely different, and the effect of a group full of people who we won't have to struggle to understand will be diluted a ton by having a bunch of people who aren't autistic. Sometimes we just need to be around a bunch of people who suck just as much as ourselves at being normal.
 
Since it was your idea, of course you should be in it. :) You definitely seem supportive, also. But I am a bit uncomfortable with people who aren't disabled being in it. We are grateful for people who are healthy yet want to help us anyway, and I really hope I'm not about to act ungrateful, but the point of a group like this wouldn't really just be getting kind words. What people like us really need is to talk to those who are like us. It helps us understand our strenghts, our weaknesses, our thinking style, how we'll be perceived by others, and tons of other stuff. We'll have a group of people who can understand each other based on firsthand experience. Having people there for us who are not disabled is wonderful, but having a group specifically created to support socially impaired people is something completely different, and the effect of a group full of people who we won't have to struggle to understand will be diluted a ton by having a bunch of people who aren't autistic. Sometimes we just need to be around a bunch of people who suck just as much as ourselves at being normal.

Actually, I totally understand that, and even though it was my idea, I think you're right. It should be about you guys. Not me. :) I'll opt out of it. Just let me know privately if there's anything I can do to help.
 
Actually, I totally understand that, and even though it was my idea, I think you're right. It should be about you guys. Not me. :) I'll opt out of it. Just let me know privately if there's anything I can do to help.
I'm not afraid of a few people who aren't disabled being in there. But I know from experience that if the number of healthy people comes even close to the number of disabled people, the healthy people will unintentionally and unconsciously take their rightful places above us in the social hierarchy, and when that happens, we'll be afraid to post in our own group. In a lot of cases, it doesn't matter whether people are trying to help us or not. It's still intimidating being around people who are less awkward than us. One of the loneliest feelings I've felt (and I feel it often) is being surrounded by healthy people who care about me, and like me, but still being completely unable to connect to them. When people who are not socially impaired act the way they normally do, it's impenetrable to us much of the time. And when they talk to us with the knowledge that we're disabled, they're often incredibly condescending by accident. They're every bit as clueless about communicating with us as we are about communicating with them, and I don't blame them for that. But it's still a problem. And either one of those things is what I would be afraid of causing by having a large number of people who don't have social issues in the group. That's all. You alone will not cause problems with the power balance of the group. The only thing that could do that is having enough healthy people to make acting normal, instead of acting slightly awkward, the thing that sticks out. :P

(to others reading this, yes, I'm aware that there's more to people's personas than simply "awkward" or "not awkward," and that there are varying levels of social impairment. I just didn't want to make this even more long winded than it already is by getting into that, haha.)

What I was getting to is that I would like you to be in the group. Because it was your idea, because you are supportive, and because of your brother.

For everyone else, I guess it's just up to you to decide if you think this group is going to be right for you. We are not going to ban you from the group because you seem normal. Lol. This is definitely not meant to be some sort of exclusive club. The things that seem like they would fit the best in this group are social anxiety disorder and autism.

I haven't heard from too many people on whether or not they'd be interested, but unless someone has another idea for the group and speaks up pretty soon, I'll get started on it!

EDIT: reading my post back, I probably don't seem disabled at all. Lol. I'm so much better at writing than I am at talking, it's not even funny. In writing, I can overthink stuff and rewrite it over and over until it makes sense without creating an awkward 30 second pause in the conversation while I contemplate whether my wording is going to make me sound like an idiot or not. XD ahaaaa
 
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EDIT: reading my post back, I probably don't seem disabled at all. Lol. I'm so much better at writing than I am at talking, it's not even funny. In writing, I can overthink stuff and rewrite it over and over until it makes sense without creating an awkward 30 second pause in the conversation while I contemplate whether my wording is going to make me sound like an idiot or not. XD ahaaaa

The truth is, I think almost everyone is this way. There's differing degrees of social ability, but I definitely feel more comfortable when I have a chance to proofread what I'm thinking and go over it several times to make sure that I don't mess up. Some of us are just better at faking in public than others.

Honestly, I don't know if it's comforting or not to hear this, but in my experience, everyone feels awkward in public. It's just we get used to faking it. When you develop a close relationship with people, you see how they act in public is just a fake persona they put up so the world can't see their vulnerability. Everyone is vulnerable.

That being said, people with mental disabilities or people with extremely introverted personalities have a lot more of a struggle for sure. I just want you to know that everyone is feeling some level of what you feel in public. I'm very social, and my job forces me to speak publicly every day (I'm a teacher). I've gotten comfortable, but I realize the guy talking in front of those kids and socializing with my coworkers isn't really "me." It's the "me" that I want the world to see. The day I realized that pretty much everyone else is doing the same thing, and we are all just trying to appear "normal", it made me a lot less nervous and insecure about myself.

Also, thanks for your welcome to the group. I'll wait and see how other people feel about it and think a bit more.
 
Wow it's nice to find others like myself, sorry for the lack of response, been very busy. Also a big thank you to Cowabunga for the open offer, PM sent. I too think a poll and an FB group would be a good idea,

In response to previous comments, I do not seem this to take place over proper therapy, I only aim to introduce it in the same level it helps me, dealing with day to day, minute to minute difficulties between therapy sessions.

Also there may be massive steps medically to help the autistic, but as of yet there is no pill or medication to cure or relieve the problems.

Also in answer to another question, no I wouldn't change and choose not to have autism, as even though it frustrates me a lot of the time, it's how I am, and I am comfortable with it.
 
I thought I'd let everyone from the UK know that there's an event in Cambridge on June 18th. Autism and talent: the Rubik's Cube. Erno Rubik will be there and the cubing community has been encouraged to attend!
 
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