Cubing for about 6 months

[cubeslayer]

hmm, it is hard...but so is arithmetic. But hey, once you get down the basic principles, then maybe...just maybe...it'll be as easy as 2+2 = 4 .

 

[SPeedHANd93]

i am been cubing for 1-2 months and doing the fridich method ( not full mehtod) and have and average of 45.92 sec.
i was doing a beginner method from youtube for 1 week than i started fridich first thing was f2l .
frist 3-4 watches of the video i dont understand but than i got it
so and than i was 3 time s slower thand before.
but with the time i got faster and faster .
so i think u should learn fridich now early as possible because u need it to get faster or get under 30sub or 20 sub
so first learn f2l basics. and learn cross faster .than more oll´s or pll´s
But that is my opion
good look here a link for the basics of f2l .

F2L tutorial Part1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-xbcAMfWwM

F2L tutorial Part2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GxLM_dZqg4

 

[uberCuber]

YO Lochran, first off i think that's a pretty good average for 6 months.

I probably shouldn't insert a comment here about how I had already been sub-20 for awhile by the 6 month-point. Oops too late. And it was because I wasn't too afraid to just practice.

I'm not really sure how your friends could learn Full Fridrich and become sub 20 in 2 months

This is kind of a dumb statement considering that you contradicted it in the same paragraph.

hmm, it is hard...but so is arithmetic. But hey, once you get down the basic principles, then maybe...just maybe...it'll be as easy as 2+2 = 4 .

I actually really like this analogy; it can take awhile to be able to connect an answer with a basic arithmetic problem very quickly, but once you get used to it, it is easy as pie and requires no thought. Exactly the same way as F2L.

 

[rishidoshi]

thanks for your advice but my friends can solve sub 20 with frierdrich by only learning it for only 2 months

as someone already suggested, check out my tutorial. u'l be up and running within a few hours (link in signature)

 

[Akash Rupela]

f2l, or no method on earth is really that difficult that one may not understand. i understood f2l in 20-30 mins of rob's video and roux in 20-30 mins of waffle's tutorial(though i used algorithms from his site without learning, but i understood it easily)
And f2l is not about learning algs, many people have sub10 f2l by just doing it intuitive(i myself have sub20 , i m around 7 weeks of cubing). The key to f2l is practice.
Divide your solve into different parts, and work on each part seperately. Watch OLL and PLL Videos, the finger tricks involved in them, practice all of them individually, that will quit decently cut off your times. The Key to f2l part is practice and if u cant look ahead, slowly force yourself to lookahead

 

[uberCuber]

(i myself have sub20 , i m around 7 weeks of cubing)

Your sig would beg to differ.

 

[MoRpHiiNe]

Your sig would beg to differ.

The one who always corrects makes a mistake?
I think you'll find he said he averages sub 20 for f2l, not his entire solve.
I myself have been cubing for around 6-7 weeks now and avg just under 40 seconds.
I only started learning f2l intuitively a week ago and until recently kept changing back to
normal lbl method + 4LLL because my times when using f2l were 1:10-1:20.. But after
persisting with practicing f2l and starting to try to look ahead more my times started to drop
every day and are now just faster than my normal method + 4LLL.

I suggest what everyone else has said, start learning intuitive f2l and just keep practicing.

 

[uberCuber]

until recently kept changing back to
normal lbl method + 4LLL because my times when using f2l were 1:10-1:20..

It's because of this, which happens to the majority of people, that it should be recommended to new cubers to not time any solves while getting used to F2L (if they are using CFOP that is). By not timing solves, discouragement is for the most part eliminated. That's what I did; I didn't time any solves until I was used to F2L, was never tempted to switch back to LBL, and then was happily surprised when I did start timing solves and they were ~30 seconds less than my old LBL solves

I think you'll find he said he averages sub 20 for f2l, not his entire solve.

*slaps self in face* wake up wake up

 

[MoRpHiiNe]

It's because of this, which happens to the majority of people, that it should be recommended to new cubers to not time any solves while getting used to F2L (if they are using CFOP that is). By not timing solves, discouragement is for the most part eliminated.

I agree completely, sorry I didn't mention this. I myself did this too. Just practicing loads of solves without timing really helps your f2l over time.
A good way to practice i found is to solve when you're traveling, say on a bus.. And don't go for speed at all, just turn slowly and get used to slotting different situations before going faster again. I need to do more slow turning still and start looking ahead further, which will be my next step in getting better at f2l.

To give you an idea of my f2l times and improvement over the last week, here's some statistics;

Date: 11/06/2011
F2l: 21.04, 19.18, (33.27), 25.74, 28.86, 23.08, 30.66, 27.29, (11.19), 30.65, 17.12, 24.33,
Average: 24.80

Date: 18/06/2011
F2l: 19.90, 22.42, 20.95, 15.35, 16.91, (14.54), 26.38, 21.85, 25.08, 19.38, (27.26), 22.64,
Average: 21.1

The main difference is consistency and a lower average . Although I still need to get faster and more consistent =P, but it'll come with practice.

Anyway, hope this helps.

 

[Jorghi]

I'm new to cubing.. but I think the only reason you got more consistency is because you learned how to do the F2L cases with less moves better over time. By going slower you can figure out more things...........

So are you saying that speed will only come once you get so consistent that you require less moves??


I want to pure speed..........................

 

[MoRpHiiNe]

I'm basically saying that speed will come in time with f2l, sometimes it's better to turn slow and focus more on getting less moves and optimal slotting options, as well as noting where the next pair is (looking ahead).

It took me a week+ to get my times to avg the same as my layer by layer + 4look last layer, but I can see how f2l will keep improving .
I think you should just keep practicing and not time yourself until you're more confident with f2l.

 

[Ranzha]

I'm new to cubing.. but I think the only reason you got more consistency is because you learned how to do the F2L cases with less moves better over time. By going slower you can figure out more things...........

So are you saying that speed will only come once you get so consistent that you require less moves??


I want to pure speed..........................

Going slow and solving with little or no pauses beats going as fast as possible with many pauses.

Advice to OP and Jorghi: During F2L, just experiment! Think of cool ways of inserting pairs. Don't time yourself at all. Just get accustomed to pairing up and inserting. Do solves with a metronome if you want. On each beat of the metronome, do a move. Just make sure you start off SLOWLY. This helps develop monumental look-ahead. A year ago, I was at 22-25. Now, I'm at 14-15. I used to always do my F2L speedily, but I had to pause due to the impossibility of looking ahead. Speed will increase through time.

>I want to pure speed
^You, sir, need to practise moar. Just go slow.