blindfold guinness wr

[nitrocan]

well our people are a little overpatriotic i guess thats why.

edit: lets stop talking about this (understanding the issue would result in reading a long history book)

 

[Tyson]

You have the right to be offended, but you don't necessarily have the right to do something about it.

Why do you care about what some crazy loon out there is saying? Let them say what they want. And then just ignore them.

 

[Stefan]

I think he was indeed insulted. But by you. Because you suggest he had no humor and because you are serious about it. And you also insulted belly dancers by saying that showing someone belly dancing is an insult.

 

[Stefan]

understanding the issue would result in reading a long history book

I recently read a bit about Atatürk and got the impression that he was a great guy. Rationalism, secularism, humanism, women's rights, Nobel peace prize... not exactly what I'd think of first when thinking about Turkey. And he lived 100 years ago, making all this even more impressive.

So with me already being very impressed by him, how would reading a long history book help me understand?

Edit: Hmm, I just noticed I misread your message. But did you really want to say "result in" and not "require"?

 

[Ton]

its not that he broke a ridiculous law, he made fun of somebody we respect. how would you feel about seeing your countries founder or lets say someone your nation really respect as a belly dancer?

Who cares, I would not care for one second if someone makes fun of the things I care about even if it is God or a president. I will not like it, I will think such person is an .... So if you call my prime minster mr Balkenende a belly dancer , this will be fine by me. I gues about 75% in the Netherlands will laugh about it and now one will care...So it is also a matter of culture! So I understand that in your country things are different.

 

[nitrocan]

If our prime minister was made fun of, I would laugh and watch that again, this is simply different. It's not only Atatürk being made fun of, its all our nation. Oh well, you can't change some people's minds. Did you know in Armenia, they made the students say this in their oath "Avenge me my brother, avenge me" , referring to the so called Armenian Genocide. This video is a result of that hatred. Turkish and Armenian people were very friendly with each other, for example, the Ottoman Empire had many Armenian grand viziers, (the most authorative person after the King). The situation in the first world war was misinterpreted and because some countries wanted to benefit this situation. I have Armenian friends, and friends that have Armenian friends. None of us give a s**t. Everyone knows that its a political scam. What a sad history.

 

[Tyson]

I think this is your problem. It is no different at all. Just because an entire nation (in general terms) hold something sacrosanct doesn't mean it's completely and utterly stupid. Just because 1 billion people believe in something doesn't mean that they aren't all operating on the rationality of goldfish in a blender.

 

[nitrocan]

well i would love to argue history, if i knew it well. this went very off topic too. and im not saying that any nation has stupid purposes.

 

[fanwuq]

My attempt was 1' 5" not including memo but with a new and unlubed cube. You can check the video, they opened it there.

The guinness WR (41") doesn't include memorization and the cube was also new and unlubed.

That's stupid. Guinness doesn't know anything about cubing. If that's the way, then someone like Phil or Lucas can just do a speedBLD with 10 min memo and a sub-15 execution.

 

[nitrocan]

the cube gets a 40 move scramble with "hand"

 

[Kian]

gotta love a thread that can discuss Guinness wrs, juggling, mustafa kemal, and a discussion of free speech.

i'm quite impressed.

 

[nitrocan]

the off topic forum is more "on topic" than many other forums