becoming fast

[chardison1980]

i was wondering if becoming fast at solving comes with tons of practice and work. or does it come natural to some people. and i mean fast in my eyes is like avarage around 20-30sec time frame.
ive been cubing for a good while. and my times havent really improved like id like them to. im still stuck between 50sec to a min/ min30, even though i practice alot. frid, roux, the corners method i think thats watermans method. and try to improve my finger tricks. the hardest thing for me is the recognition of the cube and i pause alot to see the cubeies, then i can place them where they need to go fairly fast.
any suggestions. i have moved from a broke in rubiks brand to a DaYan 5-ZhanChi cube.


i have also gotten into bld solving and had about 5-10 complete solves. using OP. any things i can do to help improve my memorization to be faster specially for my corners.

 

[asportking]

Are you saying you switch around between fridrich, roux, and corners method? If so, you should probably pick one method and stick with it (I'd recommend fridrich or roux)

 

[chardison1980]

ive learned those methods. and it depends on how the cube looks when i inspect it on which method i go with.

 

[asportking]

ive learned those methods. and it depends on how the cube looks when i inspect it on which method i go with.

Yea, then you should probably just stick with one method.

 

[Pandadudex96]

ive learned those methods. and it depends on how the cube looks when i inspect it on which method i go with.

That isn't always the case because if you really want to speedcube for speed (i guess), go with fridrich because there are lots of stuff you can do like x-crosses and stuff while other methods stick to one beginning.

 

[Muesli]

Practise. It's the only way forward. You don't magically become fast overnight after learning a new method or getting a new cube.

For example, I recently started trying Roux and my averages have shot up from around 15-20 seconds to over 40. This is simply because I'm not familiar with the method enough, or practised enough, to get the fast times.

Keep practising. Your times will drop.

 

[5BLD]

Go with the method you find most fun. I use Roux, and I'm fast in your eyes
Try the big four and pick your favourite.

Oh and I find casual practice better than solving over and over again.

 

[chardison1980]

i really like the watermans method with the corners first then middle slice last,
as far as the BIG 4 would those be frid, roux, petrus, and watermans?
somtimes i even go as far as solving it using old poch. just to get practice in for speed bld.
do you know a good watermans method site?

 

[asportking]

i really like the watermans method with the corners first then middle slice last,
as far as the BIG 4 would those be frid, roux, petrus, and watermans?
somtimes i even go as far as solving it using old poch. just to get practice in for speed bld.
do you know a good watermans method site?

Actually, the big four is fridrich, petrus, roux, and zz. I don't really know much about watermans, so I don't know any good websites for it.

 

[chardison1980]

im not familuar with ZZ itsnt that the method that Feliks Zemdegs uses?

 

[Kirjava]

rubikscube.info

 

[Tao Yu]

im not familuar with ZZ itsnt that the method that Feliks Zemdegs uses?

No Feliks uses fridrich. You've probably confused that with zeroing(if it actually exists...)

This is ZZ

tl;dr It lets you solve the F2L with blockbuilding using only R,U,L turns

 

[StachuK1992]

Lookie.

But really, Roux/CFOP have proven to be the most-used.

 

[BC1997]

im not familuar with ZZ itsnt that the method that Feliks Zemdegs uses?

No, and I believe speed BLD is a method where you use a speedsloving method to solve the cube.

 

[Joël]

Yea, then you should probably just stick with one method.

Hello,

I understand the point of this comment, but I am not sure if I really agree with this. Limiting yourself to one method can also brainwash you in the end... I can say from experience that Fridrich made me quite fast (according the TS's standards, at least ), but it also mentally disabled me in a way that I can't overcome. Just like always startinig on white has also messed my brain up. I don't think that switching between methods is a bad thing. It does make sense to do averages of a substantial number of solves using only 1 method.

If the speed doesn't come naturally, I am convinced that it WILL come with a lot of practice... Also practice each step individually. If you learn a new alg, try to time it individually a few times.

I remember from when I was still focussed on cubing and learning, I could easily cube for 10 hours in a row... And when I learned a new fingertrick or alg, I could easily just sit there and do it again and again, easily repeating it a 100 times or so, and I heard very similar stories from other cubers. This kind of obsessive cubing is really needed if you want to be a top-cuber, whether you are a natural or not.

 

[5BLD]

Those are some wise words from joël there.
I'd recommend picking one but using others alongside it. Like me.
I use Roux but I know five other methods which I use as well.

 

[DRAGON_RYU]

well joel is sayin' the truth but if ya do that ya have to become fast in (in this case) four methods...
so it will take much more time (x4) to become for example sub 20 comparing to only using one method.

 

[Cubenovice]

well joel is sayin' the truth but if ya do that ya have to become fast in (in this case) four methods...
so it will take much more time (x4) to become for example sub 20 comparing to only using one method.

It has not been said that you should practice to get equally fast in all methods...

I hardly ever do CFOP solves anymore (always fooling around with slowsolving in all kinds of methods) but when I do I always find my CFOP times have improved

 

[Kirjava]

so it will take much more time (x4)

because that's how it works.

 

[5BLD]

It will take more time.. Enjoying cubing.