shelley
chang
Seriously. What's wrong with him? Who would ostracize themselves from the cubing community just to get a few stickers? They cost about a dollar, for crying out loud. I hope he's at least smart enough to use a fake name.
Andy Tran?!
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Seriously. What's wrong with him? Who would ostracize themselves from the cubing community just to get a few stickers? They cost about a dollar, for crying out loud. I hope he's at least smart enough to use a fake name.
a small kitten
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Hey. There's shipping.
shelley
chang
Oh darn. Can't afford shipping, so that means I should cheat instead.
The Sunday Contest has really gotten too big to moderate effectively. Having sticker prizes was fine when it was just a few people but now there are too many fakers and cheaters.
The Sunday Contest has really gotten too big to moderate effectively. Having sticker prizes was fine when it was just a few people but now there are too many fakers and cheaters.
Stefan
Legend
Well, I asked him whether he's the Andy Tran winning the recent Sunday contests and he replied "actually no, i am andy tran but the one from australia not the one from usa. i think the one from usa is cheating. but who knows. nice to meet you by the way."
On the other hand, the January 25 Sunday Contest had two Andy Tran both from Australia (!) and both participating for the first time.
I asked Jon whether he can tell what's true from their email addresses and perhaps shipping addresses (if he has them for sending stickers).
On the other hand, the January 25 Sunday Contest had two Andy Tran both from Australia (!) and both participating for the first time.
I asked Jon whether he can tell what's true from their email addresses and perhaps shipping addresses (if he has them for sending stickers).
Ellis
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Seems to me like he just really likes going out of his way to get cheap things for free.
It's the same guy. The proof is there, he submitted two averages the same week, one 20 something and one 10 something, both from australia. If Jon is aware of it, why doesn't he just delete the name off of the results whenever he submits a ridiculous time? He'll stop eventually once he realizes how dumb he's being. Looking at the statistics page from this year and last year, its been months since Jon gave out stickers... so we're bound to keep seeing andy tran at number one until something is done.
"roOstaz94 became friends with Sa967St"
WHYY
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rahulkadukar
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Wow people can do anything for stickers. My suggestion is to get some good quality green paper and to then paste it onto your cube.
andatude
Regular
im sorry
hey guys,
i am andy tran.
I apologize for using the Sunday Contest as a way to get stickers. I havent been using The SC for a while becuase of what i have done. I will never cheat again. i hope you all can forgive me for what i have done. I dont have much to say becasue i feel bad for cheating on the SC and just ruining the fun competition for others to have a go and others.
I Am Sorry.
Andy Tran
hey guys,
i am andy tran.
I apologize for using the Sunday Contest as a way to get stickers. I havent been using The SC for a while becuase of what i have done. I will never cheat again. i hope you all can forgive me for what i have done. I dont have much to say becasue i feel bad for cheating on the SC and just ruining the fun competition for others to have a go and others.
I Am Sorry.
Andy Tran
AvGalen
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Nice apology Andy! Better late than never.
Now start practising and competing on both the SC and our weekly and you might eventually reach those times anyway
Ellis
Veteran
Well...
nevermind, I'll let it slide
Thanks for taking the time to come on here and clear things up. I know I appreciate the honesty.
Stefan
Legend
Not sure whether this is really honesty or just realism and fear. He might just be sensing that we'd have proof soon anyway and wants to reduce the effect. Still looking forward to Jon's reply.
Ellis
Veteran
I had just confronted him on youtube with the proof. There wasn't much he could do to deny it. I still respect the fact that he came on here though and finally admitted it, regardless of the reason. I'm happy.
Stefan
Legend
On youtube? Where? And what's the proof?
Ellis
Veteran
I sent you a pm, didn't want to post it all here for obvious reasons. it was proof enough for me (and him).
Edit: For everyone else, the proofs already in the thread, I just thought it would be rude to post the conversation. It doesn't matter anyway, it's all done.
Edit: For everyone else, the proofs already in the thread, I just thought it would be rude to post the conversation. It doesn't matter anyway, it's all done.
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Stefan
Legend
So that "proof" is the two Andy Tran entries in the Jan 25 Sunday Contest. I'm not convinced and still hope to find out for sure whether there are two separate Andy's or not.
Oh and yes, coming clean late is better than never, I hope all cheaters would have at least that much respect left for the community.
Oh and yes, coming clean late is better than never, I hope all cheaters would have at least that much respect left for the community.
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I can't tell if your being sarcastic or not. But hoppfully this guy never cheats again.
Ellis
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Yes and Levi's statement in which Andy admitted he lied. The chances of a person submitting a fake time as someone else the same week that that person actually submitted their first legit time are....?
Why are you trying to defend him? And what logic are you using to do so?
Stefan
Legend
I'm not. I'm attacking bad prosecution. Particularly I don't like evidence be called proof, and premature conclusions.
Innocent until proven guilty? Robert Yau ring a bell?
Ellis
Veteran
He admitted guilt.
So basically this is just something that you'll never really know the answer to. If you can't have a time machine and go back to Andy Tran's house and see him submitting a fake time, there's no way to know.
So basically this is just something that you'll never really know the answer to. If you can't have a time machine and go back to Andy Tran's house and see him submitting a fake time, there's no way to know.
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Stefan
Legend
Yeah but who admitted guilt? I've only seen "andatude", in this thread, and for all I know, that could be you. Not saying that's the case, but it's possible, as I have no connections from "andatude" to anything or anyone.
Ellis
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Andy Tran admitted guilt. Levi Emailed him. Unless whoever submitted the fake times on SC also had Andy's email password.
