Amaziong videos to solve the cube, with no algs :)

[Lotsofsloths]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMuGAmdr8m4&feature=related
Thats part 1, look under related for part 2 and so forth.

Just amazing how he combined all those methods
I personally like how he solves the edges right after finishing those "2 Rectangles".

 

[AvGalen]

The way he does the first part is BAD! Petrus is a nice way to keep freedom of movements, but he doesn't use it. He keeps talking about the amount of free moves this gives, but he keeps turning the already solved parts. Real Petrus is much more efficient. Simple layer-by layer + keyhole would do the same with lesser moves and easier (if you already know layer-by-layer or Fridrich)

The part about the Last Layer edges is somewhat interesting. Just orienting edges this way is easy, but permuting them is (like he says) not trivial. He doesn't explain it though. He just "does" the last two last layer edges.

The really interesting part is the last corners, but all he does is refer to Ryan Heises Site. The 4/4 part is really only a very first introduction to commutators and only discusses orienting corners, which is easy to do 1-at-a-time. Permuting corners is much harder and permuting and orienting at the same time is even harder.

I had high hopes, but found it a big waste of time

 

[K2003]

The part about the Last Layer edges is somewhat interesting. Just orienting edges this way is easy, but permuting them is (like he says) not trivial. He doesn't explain it though. He just "does" the last two last layer edges.

I had high hopes, but found it a big waste of time

I just started cubing and learned the Fridrich F2L w/ Keyhole part, but avoided to learn the last steps to solve the cube (OLL, PLL).
(I want to learn F2L really well b4 moving on)
Solving the LL edges with a(nother) keyhole seemed easy in the vid , but do you advise to do it with a different method? Could you show me why?

 

[Inusagi]

Is this method faster, or is it just for those who wanna solve it without high speed and memorization?

 

[isaacthecuber]

Real Petrus is much more efficient. Simple layer-by layer + keyhole would do the same with lesser moves and easier (if you already know layer-by-layer or Fridrich)

I remember trying to explain to you how I did Petrus at the U.S. Open!

I was baaaaaad....

 

[hait2]

after reading avg's reply, i decided not to bother watching past the first 5 minutes or so

i found it silly that he says you will never forget this method (whatever it is, you will most certainly forget it given enough time)

and regardless of how you solve it, without spending a fair time learning the principles of commutators and conjugates (something i'm REALLY glad i've done and i HIGHLY recommend it to everyone. solving any piece you like at any time without disrupting other pieces (while staying within the laws of the cube of course) and creating the solution on the fly is a lot of fun), you can't really solve it 'for real'. since he evidently kinda ignored that part according to avg, i guess i might have to ignore the video.

 

[Dene]

i found it silly that he says you will never forget this method (whatever it is, you will most certainly forget it given enough time)

It is argued that we humans do not actually suffer from memory loss (unless in the case of physical damage, eg. removal of the Hippocampus), but instead, humans suffer from memory retrieval. Not that that makes a difference .

 

[Lofty]

Ok I have watched the first 3 videos. (I already learned commutators from Ryan so didn't want to here him teach me as well).
To me it doesn't seem like a combination of methods but an extreme simplification of Ryan Heise's method. If you want a good method for solving very intuitively just go straight to the source and learn Ryan and Lars' methods.
And with all his thinking on the fly he just arbitrarily picked parts of the cube to solve and didn't think on the fly picking the best part to solve. He got the BWO corner for free because he already had a pair while expanding...
On a positive note I suppose it is good as a way to introduce someone who has no idea what they are doing to the world of block building and intuitive solving.

 

[TimMc]

Solving the LL edges with a(nother) keyhole seemed easy in the vid , but do you advise to do it with a different method? Could you show me why?

You could try this method:
1) Solve F2L
2) Orient edges: R' F' U' F U R
3) Apply U movements after Step 2 and repeat Step 2 to see the effect

That basically disregards the LL edges during F2L and creates a temporary keyhole after you've completed F2L (see R' in step 2) so that you can orient the edges.

However, I found this video useful because I've never oriented AND permuted edges during F2L. I usually orient edges after F2L as the first step in solving LL and then permute them as the last step of LL.

Tim.

 

[rubiks to the third]

seems like a good idea to use that keyhole for LL edges, but when the last corner of f2l is in the wrong place i always get into a jumble. i really enjoyed that vid

 

[hait2]

actually i juts remembered the other thing that bugged me about the first 5 minutes of this intro
he kept going on and on about "really" solving the cube instead of just memorizing algorithms.

sorry, i wasn't aware you can solve a cube, but not really solve it, even tho it's in the solved position, it's not really solved. yeah.

maybe he should REALLY learn to speak, and you know, invent his own language by learning the basics of linguistics rather than memorize concepts and words from someone else.

what a joke.

 

[TimMc]

what a joke.

It seemed that way. What with saying one thing and doing another

There's very little difference between figuring it out and memorizing algorithms. After you figure it out you proceed to memorize the algorithms. You could say memorizing algorithms is a subset of "figuring it out".

Only the ignorant would label the method you use as "cheating" if you mention the word "algorithm". :rolleyes:

Tim.

 

[Rpotts]

I agree, I watched the first three parts and didn't really find anything useful. He talked a lot about simple things, like the first two steps in Petrus, although he did them wrong, breaking the blocks he had built rather than using the free layers. He talked for 10 minutes about building the 2x2x3, but then 30 seconds about placing the last layer edges using keyhole. And he didn't cover the last F2l corner because it was placed and oriented correctly on his lucky solve. I don't think he's doing anything new or interesting, just poorly combining effective methods.

And his method isn't any more "real" than any of them. They are all means to an identical end.