a progression threads

[levi.m]

Generated By csTimer on 2022-12-07
avg of 5: 36.38

Time List:
1. (29.16) F' R' F L2 F2 D' L2 F2 U2 L2 R2 B2 U2 R D' U L' F' L R'
2. (45.79) B' U2 L2 F L2 B' L2 U2 B' L2 F2 D R B L F2 R' U L B'
3. 36.76 L U2 B2 F' L2 F2 L2 R2 F' U2 B' D2 U L F2 U F L' D' R'
4. 31.59 U' R' B' L' U2 L2 F U2 R2 D2 R2 D' B2 R2 F2 L2 D' R2 D' B L2
5. 40.79 D R L2 B R2 L D2 R U R' U2 F2 R' F2 R2 U2 F2 D2 F2 U2 R2

 

[levi.m]

should I join Jayden McNeill's course?

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

should I join Jayden McNeill's course?

Probably not, i believe it is really expensive and getting sub 10 (long shot maybe) is definitely possible without.

 

[Garf]

should I join Jayden McNeill's course?

You should look for sources that can get you sub-30 and sub-10 first before going to Jayden Mcneill.
Sub-30:

Sub-x barrier playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLI24ciRbl8BVh6cuX4UMgfbqOTZqb8eNf

 

[levi.m]

which V perm algorithm should I use?
1. R' U R U' R' f' U' R U2 R' U' R U' R' f R
2. R' U R' U' y R' F' R2 U' R' U R' F R F
3. R U' R U R' D R D' R U' D R2' U R2 D' R2'
4. R' U R' U' R D' R' D R' U D' R2 U' R2' D R2
5. R2 D R2' U' R2 U D' R' D R' D' R U' R' U R'
6. R' U R U' x' U R U2' R' U' R U' R' U2 R U R' U'
7. z D' R2 D R2 U R' D' R U' R U R' D R U'

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

I use #4, and for OH i use #6 but it really depends on the person.

 

[levi.m]

I use #4, and for OH i use #6 but it really depends on the person.

thx

 

[levi.m]

yeah, think I'm using #2

 

[NigelTheCuber]

In my opinion , full OLL isn’t even necessary until sub 15 or so actually . I reckon you can even get sub 10 without full OLL , maybe only half of it at least . Even then it’s best to learn some full OLL algs along the way because some of them are super easy and intuitive and free improvement pretty much .

Heres an ao5 I did without full OLL
Generated By csTimer on 2022-11-22
avg of 5: 13.41

Time List:
1. 12.38 D' L2 D L2 R2 U2 L2 F2 D' F2 U R2 L' F L R' B R2 B2 D L'
2. (14.98) F' R' D L U D' L2 D L2 B' L2 B R2 U2 F' L2 U2 B2 L2 D2 U'
3. 14.97 R U F2 L' D2 L D2 F2 D2 F2 L B2 R' B' D2 L2 D' B R F
4. (11.23) L D2 L2 B R2 B' U2 R2 B R2 B F2 U' R F R2 U' B2 U2 R2
5. 12.89 B' D B' D2 R2 D2 F' D2 U2 F2 R2 B F2 D F2 L U' B' F2 R

You can get sub 7 with 2 look OLL tbh, it depends more on F2L

 

[ProStar]

which V perm algorithm should I use?
1. R' U R U' R' f' U' R U2 R' U' R U' R' f R
2. R' U R' U' y R' F' R2 U' R' U R' F R F
3. R U' R U R' D R D' R U' D R2' U R2 D' R2'
4. R' U R' U' R D' R' D R' U D' R2 U' R2' D R2
5. R2 D R2' U' R2 U D' R' D R' D' R U' R' U R'
6. R' U R U' x' U R U2' R' U' R U' R' U2 R U R' U'
7. z D' R2 D R2 U R' D' R U' R U R' D R U'

Don’t have a cube on me at the moment, but I believe I use #3

 

[NigelTheCuber]

which V perm algorithm should I use?
1. R' U R U' R' f' U' R U2 R' U' R U' R' f R
2. R' U R' U' y R' F' R2 U' R' U R' F R F
3. R U' R U R' D R D' R U' D R2' U R2 D' R2'
4. R' U R' U' R D' R' D R' U D' R2 U' R2' D R2
5. R2 D R2' U' R2 U D' R' D R' D' R U' R' U R'
6. R' U R U' x' U R U2' R' U' R U' R' U2 R U R' U'
7. z D' R2 D R2 U R' D' R U' R U R' D R U'

either 1 or 4 imo

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

You can get sub 7 with 2 look OLL tbh, it depends more on F2L

good luck

 

[ProStar]

You can get sub 7 with 2 look OLL tbh, it depends more on F2L

No. Just no. Learn OLL at some point at around 10-20 second average. It’s really not that hard

 

[ruffleduck]

which V perm algorithm should I use?
1. R' U R U' R' f' U' R U2 R' U' R U' R' f R
2. R' U R' U' y R' F' R2 U' R' U R' F R F
3. R U' R U R' D R D' R U' D R2' U R2 D' R2'
4. R' U R' U' R D' R' D R' U D' R2 U' R2' D R2
5. R2 D R2' U' R2 U D' R' D R' D' R U' R' U R'
6. R' U R U' x' U R U2' R' U' R U' R' U2 R U R' U'
7. z D' R2 D R2 U R' D' R U' R U R' D R U'

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[NigelTheCuber]

No. Just no. Learn OLL at some point at around 10-20 second average. It’s really not that hard

Yes, just saying it's possible

 

[Garf]

Yes, just saying it's possible

Yeah, but don't be throwing out ideas about bad habits out there. Sure, it's possible, but using 2 Look OLL at that speed would be deemed not good, and maybe considered a bad habit.

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

Yes, just saying it's possible

I don't think someone who isn't dedicated enough to learn OLL is dedicated enough to become sub 7.

 

[NigelTheCuber]

I don't think someone who isn't dedicated enough to learn OLL is dedicated enough to become sub 7.

yes

 

[levi.m]

it takes me around 10 seconds to solve the cross

 

[Garf]

it takes me around 10 seconds to solve the cross

Well, you should be trying to plan out the entire cross during inspection. If that is too hard for you to do in 15 seconds, take as long as you need to make sure you are confident in your cross-solution, then start timing your solve. Practice this until you can do it under 15 seconds, or even faster.