8 second average ...

[That70sShowDude]

i saw this on cubefreak .....

Do you think it is possible that someone gets like 8 sec average in the future?

Not very likely. It's impossible with any method known. Someone needs to develop a method that allows one to find a near-optimal solution in the 15 sec of pre-inspection, that doesn't seem possible.

source:
http://www.cubefreak.net/site/faq.html

the names that come to mind:
erik, thomasz, feliks, chan

 

[Escher]

i saw this on cubefreak .....

Do you think it is possible that someone gets like 8 sec average in the future?

Not very likely. It's impossible with any method known. Someone needs to develop a method that allows one to find a near-optimal solution in the 15 sec of pre-inspection, that doesn't seem possible.

source:
http://www.cubefreak.net/site/faq.html


FELIKS ZEMDEGS IS GOING TO PROVE THIS WRONG!
.01 sec away from sub 9 avg of 5
.59 sec away from sub 9 avg of 12

Yesterday Stefan Huber (or Uber Huber) got a sub 9 average of 5, though the first three solves were PLL skips it went 8, 8, 8, 13, 8.
I'm definite that other people have had sub 9 averages of 5, like Harris, Tomasz, Erik, Breandan, Nakaji, Yumu, etc etc.
Although Feliks is undoubtedly very, very good, it's unfair to ignore that Harris holds the UWR avg of 12 of 9.1x, and that he has the best chance of getting it...
Imo, the fastest that a cuber could ever get on the 3x3 is about 8.5-9s on average. 6tps is achievable on f2l (so 5-5.5s f2l), and somebody that was excellent at predicting the OLL and had amazing recognition and turning speed could get a 3-4s LL.
Thing is, it would take such concentration and effort I'm not sure if anybody could sustain that for much longer than an avg 12 or 25.

 

[Konsta]

[youtube]wh9NbeXtKjs&feature=channel_page[/youtube]

 

[4Chan]

ZB METHOD will make this possible!!!!
Give me a year or 2, move count-wise, its possible.

 

[rahulkadukar]

That video was insane :O

 

[phases]

That video was insane :O

For real. Blows my mind.

 

[Konsta]

That video was insane :O

For real. Blows my mind.

Well, what did you expect? It's Harris Chan!

 

[Derrick Eide17]

Is sub 9 avg possible: Yes

Will someone achieve it: Eventually, Yes

Who will it be: My Guess is Harris (Remember I said this)

 

[Lucas]

Wow, just add something like 10-20 centiseconds and you have the time following the rules (obviously that he will not throw the cube to the keyboard), still under 9 seconds.

I know that with luck it is possible, but it is insane to see that consecutive solves.

Know we have to wait ZB to be mastered by future oficial average record holder.

 

[DavidWoner]

Bear in mind that we do not know what Tomasz and Yumu have done unofficially. Based on the fact that both Harris and Erik have come pretty dang close to sub-9, there's a chance that someone else has either done it or come just as close.

 

[Konsta]

Bear in mind that we do not know what Tomasz and Yumu have done unofficially. Based on the fact that both Harris and Erik have come pretty dang close to sub-9, there's a chance that someone else has either done it or come just as close.

Yeah, I have a strong feeling that Tomasz has done some mad averages at home.

 

[Lt-UnReaL]

8 second average is way off of sub-9 :/

 

[Wojto]

Bear in mind that we do not know what Tomasz and Yumu have done unofficially.

Tomasz's mean of 1000 - sub11.

 

[SimonWestlund]

Bear in mind that we do not know what Tomasz and Yumu have done unofficially.

Tomasz's mean of 1000 - sub11.

Do you know his average of 12 record?

 

[Stefan]

Just to clarify because I might not be the only one who misread at first: That video of Harris is from September 24, 2008. So over a year ago.

 

[Tim Major]

When I saw this thread, I was going to say that Felik's a5 pb is 9 seconds. Then I saw you mentioned it. Hopefully in a comp in Melbourne this December (not yet confirmed) he will be in the zone when he's solving.

 

[DAE_JA_VOO]

Yeah, I won't be surprised at all if Feliks gets am 8.xx average any time soon. Both him and Harris are just nuts. Sub 9 from those two won't surprise me. Sub 8 from pretty much anyone else will surprise me though.

Feliks, what's your average atm? Not pb avg, overall avg. Say, avg of 30 or 40?

 

[Tim Major]

Yeah, I won't be surprised at all if Feliks gets am 8.xx average any time soon. Both him and Harris are just nuts. Sub 9 from those two won't surprise me. Sub 8 from pretty much anyone else will surprise me though.

Feliks, what's your average atm? Not pb avg, overall avg. Say, avg of 30 or 40?

He did an average of 100, can't remember the time, but I think it was either 10.77 or 11.77. His a5 and a12 pb's are amazing though. Sub 10 with both.

 

[Faz]

Firstly, I would like to clear some things up.

1. No, I am nowhere near as good as Harris, Breandan and Tomasz.
2. The only reason people say "Oh, Feliks will get it" is because I publicly share my records, and don't keep them as a secret.
3. Could the owner of the thread please remove the bit at the bottom of the post about me.

OK, now I believe that a sub 9 average of 12 has already been done.
a) Harris got a 9.12 average of 12 a month or so ago, and who is to say he hasn't done faster?
b) Breandan Vallance's normal average is high 9/low 10, and his 9.48 average was non rolling. He personally told me that he just does sessions without looking at statistics. He may have done a sub 9 rolling average.
c) Tomasz is also insane.

Erik has done close, but his regular average is about 11, isn't that right Erik?

Now, regarding me.

1. My 9.58 average of 12 had 6 8 second solves, and no 9's whatsoever, which I take as a sign that sub 9 is possible if I am concentrated.
2. Furthermore, the first 2 solves were 11, and 10, and if I had rolled them out successfully, the average may have been in the low 9s.
3. "Tomasz's mean of 1000 - sub11" Yes, that is fast, but I'm sure a couple of others could do that too. (Including me)
4. If my stupid wrist hadn't broken, I would have given sub 9 average a crack during my 2 week holidays.

@DAE JA VOO: My normal average before I broke my wrist was around 10.5, although I did a 10.07 average of 50 the day before my wrist broke.

@ ZB FTW: Well, when my wrist heals, I think 10.77 average of 100 will be very easy to beat. Regarding the competition, I will be faster, but as shown in NZ, my nerves get to me.

Yes, my eventual goal is to get a sub 9 average of 12. I believe it is very possible.

PS: I have no intention of learning full ZB unless it becomes the norm.

 

[Spitfire97]

Firstly, I would like to clear some things up.

1. No, I am nowhere near as good as Harris, Breandan and Tomasz.
2. The only reason people say "Oh, Feliks will get it" is because I publicly share my records, and don't keep them as a secret.
3. Could the owner of the thread please remove the bit at the bottom of the post about me.

OK, now I believe that a sub 9 average of 12 has already been done.
a) Harris got a 9.12 average of 12 a month or so ago, and who is to say he hasn't done faster?
b) Breandan Vallance's normal average is high 9/low 10, and his 9.48 average was non rolling. He personally told me that he just does sessions without looking at statistics. He may have done a sub 9 rolling average.
c) Tomasz is also insane.

Erik has done close, but his regular average is about 11, isn't that right Erik?

Now, regarding me.

1. My 9.58 average of 12 had 6 8 second solves, and no 9's whatsoever, which I take as a sign that sub 9 is possible if I am concentrated.
2. Furthermore, the first 2 solves were 11, and 10, and if I had rolled them out successfully, the average may have been in the low 9s.
3. "Tomasz's mean of 1000 - sub11" Yes, that is fast, but I'm sure a couple of others could do that too. (Including me)
4. If my stupid wrist hadn't broken, I would have given sub 9 average a crack during my 2 week holidays.

@DAE JA VOO: My normal average before I broke my wrist was around 10.5, although I did a 10.07 average of 50 the day before my wrist broke.

@ ZB FTW: Well, when my wrist heals, I think 10.77 average of 100 will be very easy to beat. Regarding the competition, I will be faster, but as shown in NZ, my nerves get to me.

Yes, my eventual goal is to get a sub 9 average of 12. I believe it is very possible.

PS: I have no intention of learning full ZB unless it becomes the norm.

That must have been hell to type with a broken wrist.