2x2x2 Lucky Scrambles

[reThinking the Cube]

Is this going to be implemented any time soon? And if so, shouldn't there be a request to save all known scrambles before they are tossed out too?

The WCA is only the WCA, and you should get used to that idea. It's not a formally registered entity, but is run on a volunteer basis, and does not owe anyone anything. Yes, they set rules, and try to stay accountable, but they are still operating in practice.
If you want to change something, though, suggest it. That's how the rules get codified and updated.

That said, I've always been a proponent of saving all the scrambles. Not hard if you do it right, and have someone competent with a PDF creator.

After looking at the post you linked, I formed the impression that you and Stefan had already suggested it. That is why I asked you, "if it was going to be implemented any time soon." I liked what Stefan did with those WCA pages, but if you and Stefan cannot get this changed, then what "luck" will I have by myself?

Kudos to you, Lucas, for being a proponent of saving all the scrambles. I was also thinking that you of all people would have been intensely interested in at least one of the scrambles that I was requesting. That one was mentioned earlier, and is the 3rd scramble of the 2x2x2 World Championship 2009 Oct.9-11, held in Dusseldorf, Germany. I found it interesting that the very same scramble, that your fellow countryman Marwin-Peter Kurth got the German NR with, gave you a rather abismal time of 11.43s. How can you not be wondering - "how could I have done that solve differently?" How will you ever know, without seeing the scramble? Maybe you just don't care now that you shortly thereafter, reclaimed the German NR for yourself, getting the Stanford scramble that has already been posted in this thread. But since you are claiming to be a proponent of saving all the scrambles, I feel you should then also be supporting my efforts to obtain this scramble, and the others on the list as well. Not hard, if you do it right.

 

[masterofthebass]

If you weren't aware, there are different groups in competitions. At worlds, there were 5 different groups for the first round of 2x2. The easy scramble had a 4 move solution (iirc) and it was for the first group. Lucas was part of a later group, and had a completely different scramble. If everyone had that easy scramble, there would've been a big change in the rankings.

Also, Lucas previously mentioned in this thread that he was informed that the scrambles from Worlds have been thrown away, so finding the actual scramble will be quite hard.

 

[reThinking the Cube]

If you weren't aware, there are different groups in competitions. At worlds, there were 5 different groups for the first round of 2x2. The easy scramble had a 4 move solution (iirc) and it was for the first group. Lucas was part of a later group, and had a completely different scramble. If everyone had that easy scramble, there would've been a big change in the rankings.

Thanks for sharing that. I thought he was in the same group, and therefore had gotten the same scramble. So how can I too, get official group info for previous competitions?

Also, Lucas previously mentioned in this thread that he was informed that the scrambles from Worlds have been thrown away, so finding the actual scramble will be quite hard.

In answer, you have provided me with a useful clue - "had a 4 move solution (iirc)", and I might just get "lucky" on this one.

 

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Suck It

 

[Anthony]

So how can I too, get official group info for previous competitions?

That would be extremely hard to do for all competitions, if possible at all. Especially considering that groups are sometimes chosen randomly, or based on who can scramble for a certain event, or who volunteers to go first, etc. Also, sometimes people miss their group and subsequently end up competing in a different one... and missing out.. Rowe.

 

[TMOY]

At Worlds, the groups were chosen based on WCA average rankings; the group who got the eay scramble was the group of the slowest competitors. that's the irony of the situation: most competitors (including me) didn't get a good official single because they were not slow enough

 

[bamilan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKthrWWRrhE

 

[reThinking the Cube]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKthrWWRrhE

Thanks for posting that Milan. Very nice solve BTW. I did notice that 3 corners were already solved, and the UFR completed the bottom layer with obviouis R U' R'. Regardless, that is a very nice recognition and execution of that LL case. It looked like you grabbed it about 5 seconds into the inspection. How many of those 1 look LL cases do you know?

 

[Anthony]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKthrWWRrhE

Thanks for posting that Milan. Very nice solve BTW. I did notice that 3 corners were already solved, and the UFR completed the bottom layer with obviouis R U' R'. Regardless, that is a very nice recognition and execution of that LL case. It looked like you grabbed it about 5 seconds into the inspection. How many of those 1 look LL cases do you know?

Afaik, he knows CLL and EG1, as do I. As long as the layer is relatively short, it's very easy to figure out the entire solution (minus AUF sometimes) during inspection time.

 

[reThinking the Cube]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKthrWWRrhE

Thanks for posting that Milan. Very nice solve BTW. I did notice that 3 corners were already solved, and the UFR completed the bottom layer with obviouis R U' R'. Regardless, that is a very nice recognition and execution of that LL case. It looked like you grabbed it about 5 seconds into the inspection. How many of those 1 look LL cases do you know?

Afaik, he knows CLL and EG1, as do I. As long as the layer is relatively short, it's very easy to figure out the entire solution (minus AUF sometimes) during inspection time.

Totally agree. I was just curious as to whether or not he wanted to admit mastering all or just some of the algs of the full EG set.

Do you remember your solution for this one?

13) Anthony Searle 1.55 Belize, Toronto Open Summer 2009

 

[JustinJ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKthrWWRrhE

Thanks for posting that Milan. Very nice solve BTW. I did notice that 3 corners were already solved, and the UFR completed the bottom layer with obviouis R U' R'. Regardless, that is a very nice recognition and execution of that LL case. It looked like you grabbed it about 5 seconds into the inspection. How many of those 1 look LL cases do you know?

Afaik, he knows CLL and EG1, as do I. As long as the layer is relatively short, it's very easy to figure out the entire solution (minus AUF sometimes) during inspection time.

Totally agree. I was just curious as to whether or not he wanted to admit mastering all or just some of the algs of the full EG set.

Do you remember your solution for this one?

13) Anthony Searle 1.55 Belize, Toronto Open Summer 2009

My solution to the same scramble was U2 R U R.

 

[reThinking the Cube]

My solution to the same scramble was U2 R U R.

Thanks for sharing that. I have been editing the #1 post to include important information like this. There are only 8 bolded scrambles left now, out of the original 34, that are still total unknowns.
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[Tim Reynolds]

I think the solution to the Armonk one was U R' U R' U2. I don't think I still have the scramble sheets though.

 

[reThinking the Cube]

I think the solution to the Armonk one was U R' U R' U2. I don't think I still have the scramble sheets though.

Thanks. I will update the #1 post.

Moderator(s): previous post #154 by Khartaras, has been totally deprived, of the proper honor and attention, that it rightfully deserves. Shouldn't UBERVALUE posts like that, have their very own thread?:rolleyes:
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[Weston]

Im sad that my solve doenst get to be added to this post.
I got a 2.00 today

 

[Crystl]

I had seen my friend scramble his 2x2, he did a lot of moves, but solve only in 6 moves :|

 

[lachose]

Sorry for bumping this topic but I just found it and wanted to add a scramble/solution. For the World Championship 2009, the solution was something like U R U2 R' U' (not sure about the last U')

 

[reThinking the Cube]

Sorry for bumping this topic but I just found it and wanted to add a scramble/solution. For the World Championship 2009, the solution was something like U R U2 R' U' (not sure about the last U')

Thanks Antoine, I updated the first post (top 34 list) to include this.

 

[qqwref]

Got this one from the youtube vid.

16) Vicente Albíter Alpízar 1.55 Mexico, Mexican Open 2008
optimal WCA scramble: R' U' F U'
solution: z2 U L' U L

 

[reThinking the Cube]

Got this one from the youtube vid.

16) Vicente Albíter Alpízar 1.55 Mexico, Mexican Open 2008
optimal WCA scramble: R' U' F U'
solution: z2 U L' U L

Nice find, Michael. I will update. Thank you.