2x2x2 "COLD" solving averages using ORTEGA method

[Anthony]

I know that your current 2x2x2 average is very close to 4sec. with free 15sec. inspection.

You're as clueless as ever.

 

[Hyprul 9-ty2]

Do you really average sub 3 on the 2x2 with Ortega?

 

[reThinking the Cube]

I know that your current 2x2x2 average is very close to 4sec. with free 15sec. inspection.

You're as clueless as ever.

[DAVID WONER] 2x2 Cube
Competition Round Place Best Average Result Details
Oklahoma Open 2010 Final 2 2.06 4.09 4.27 4.34 2.06 3.65 5.05
First 3 3.11 4.29 3.83 4.61 4.63 4.44 3.11
Chicago Open 2010 Final 4 2.53 5.23 9.31 4.77 2.53 6.63 4.28
First 3 4.40 4.97 4.40 5.46 5.19 4.56 5.15
Cubetcha 2009 Final 1 4.11 4.57 4.11 4.72 4.65 4.96 4.33
First 1 3.80 4.39 6.63 3.83 3.80 3.90 5.44
US Nationals 2009 Final 10 5.12 5.86 6.21 5.12 6.15 5.21 7.18
First 16 5.38 5.95 5.38 5.71 6.21 6.82 5.93
Missouri Open 2009 Final 1 4.93 5.99 12.00 4.94 8.06 4.96 4.93
First 2 4.11 6.25 6.91 10.38 7.65 4.11 4.19
Carnegie Mellon Spring 2009 Final 14 3.00 DNF DNF 5.16 DNF 3.00 DNF
Fort Lee Winter 2009 Final 6 3.80 6.31 3.93 8.05 3.80 10.38 6.96
Newark Winter 2009 Final 13 3.38 7.60 8.06 3.38 7.66 7.25 7.88
Carnegie Mellon Fall 2008 Final 6 6.34 10.75 7.68 6.34 12.15 12.43 23.71
Westchester Fall 2008 Final 7 6.59 7.42 6.59 7.41 7.86 7.00 9.90
Drexel Fall 2008 Final 4 2.68 6.33 7.30 6.33 6.52 6.15 2.68

 

[dannyz0r]

and that tells you what he averages at home?

 

[Deleted member 4527]

I know that your current 2x2x2 average is very close to 4sec. with free 15sec. inspection.

Do you now >_>

lol. that is all.

this

 

[reThinking the Cube]

and that tells you what he averages at home?

No, and not worth debating. What is important for the purpose of this poll, is to be able to see the RELATIVE DIFFERENCE between inspected solves and non-inspected 2x2x2 solves using Ortega. If DW's average was done without inspection, then like I had stated earlier, I apologize for assuming otherwise. The point of this is so that we can compare what happens to solve times, and be able to see precisely how important good inspection is to getting faster times using Ortega method.

DW: could you post (2) sets of 100aver. - one with inspection, and one without inspection for 2x2x2 Ortega?

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[Anthony]

I know that your current 2x2x2 average is very close to 4sec. with free 15sec. inspection.

You're as clueless as ever.

*Irrelevant stats displaying how much Woner sucks in comp*

Facebook says u dum:
David 'd-bone' Woner: Finally something went right this week: current avg1000: 2.99 (σ = 0.59) best avg100: 2.81 (σ = 0.47) best avg12: 2.37 (σ = 0.36)

 

[Kian]

5.89 but I got lucky cases. I imagine without inspection I'd be closer to 7.

Also, this is the second time we've done a no inspection thread and I was wayyy too close to my normal average. I think this proves I'm incompetent and/or don't plan ahead in inspection.

 

[DavidWoner]

DW: could you post (2) sets of 100aver. - one with inspection, and one without inspection for 2x2x2 Ortega?

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Already done in the relevant thread. I think it was 3.45 for those too lazy to check.

 

[reThinking the Cube]

DW: could you post (2) sets of 100aver. - one with inspection, and one without inspection for 2x2x2 Ortega?
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Already done in the relevant thread. I think it was 3.45 for those too lazy to check.

3.44 Thanks. I guess you HAVE improved a lot recently. I see you posted it there, over an hour after the one here. I checked beforehand (not too lazy), and if it had been there first, I wouldn't have had to ask you about it. I also didn't have the privilege of being in Oklahoma this April, like some others (Anthony,&friends), where I could have maybe witnessed this for myself. "Clueless" NOT>

David "d-Bone" Woner: Have you ever tried letting a buddy scramble your 2x2x2, without letting you see it, and then have him toss it to you, so that you are starting the time as soon as you remove your hands from the timer to catch it? I did this recently, and the times I got were absolutely terrible! (main inspiration for this poll) I would be very interested in seeing your average of 100, or even 12 doing it "exactly" that way.

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[Weston]

You do realize that making a FF is very easy to plan quickly right?
So I'm pretty sure what David did was just take like half a second to plan out his FF and then do a normal solve from there. You don't actually have to start turning as soon as you start the timer...

EDIT: I did one solve and it was 4.04. I can easily see how David did sub 4.

 

[Faz]

current avg12: 4.25

I suck.

 

[reThinking the Cube]

So I'm pretty sure what David did was just take like half a second to plan out his FF and then do a normal solve from there. You don't actually have to start turning as soon as you start the timer...

By stating this, you believe that he needs to use only about 1/2 of a second out of the 15 second inspection to equal his best averages. At least to me - this doesn't seem possible - especially with Ortega or Guimond fast averages.

David "d-Bone" Woner: Do you really use this fast "half a second suffices" inspection technique?

 

[Faz]

So I'm pretty sure what David did was just take like half a second to plan out his FF and then do a normal solve from there. You don't actually have to start turning as soon as you start the timer...

By stating this, you believe that he needs to use only about 1/2 of a second out of the 15 second inspection to equal his best averages. At least to me - this doesn't seem possible - especially with Ortega or Guimond fast averages.

David "d-Bone" Woner: Do you really use this fast "half a second suffices" inspection technique?

No he obviously doesn't.

EDIT: Lol at "d-bone"

 

[Weston]

So I'm pretty sure what David did was just take like half a second to plan out his FF and then do a normal solve from there. You don't actually have to start turning as soon as you start the timer...

By stating this, you believe that he needs to use only about 1/2 of a second out of the 15 second inspection to equal his best averages. At least to me - this doesn't seem possible - especially with Ortega or Guimond fast averages.

David "d-Bone" Woner: Do you really use this fast "half a second suffices" inspection technique?

Actually I'm pretty sure that 3.96 is a horrible average for him.

 

[Escher]

I feel this didn't get through the first time:

Just... shut up.

 

[reThinking the Cube]

I feel this didn't get through the first time:

Just... shut up.

Fool.

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[Escher]

Fool.

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No need for ad hominem attacks, I was just giving you advice.

Seeing as you proceeded to post a lot of mistaken assumptions, it would probably have been wise to take it.

 

[Kirjava]

wtf is preinspection.

Since normal inspection(15 sec.) for a solve is not timed, I chose - for the sake of clarity, to make a distinction by adding the prefix - "pre". The inspection for a "Cold" solve would have to take place during the timing. So with the added format, we can have two kinds of inspection. One of them is done while timed, the other is not. So I chose to refer to the later as "preinspection" to make that distinction. Yeah, technically in WCA rules/terminology, there is only "inspection". For this poll question, "pre-inspection" is the more appropriate term.

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No, you made this up because you realised 'pre-inspection' isn't the correct term when I asked you about it.

 

[reThinking the Cube]

Fool.

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No need for ad hominem attacks, I was just giving you advice.

Seeing as you proceeded to post a lot of mistaken assumptions, it would probably be wise to take it.

Did I really "proceed to post a lot of mistaken assumptions", or did you just "mistakenly" assume that to be the case, so that you could have a RETARDED EXCUSE for being a JERK?:rolleyes: You even started the following thread about forum etiquette, and I wonder what the hell has happened to your good attitude since -

Rule #1 should just be "Don't be a jerk". Possibly extended with "The following rules help you achieve that".
Also interesting: http://tinyurl.com/y6lowc

So you see Rowan(Escher), and the rest of the incestuous groopies, there is no need for you to be ad hominem hypocrites, ... for I am also just giving YOU some advice. Seeing as you have proceeded to post a lot of unwarranted insults towards me, it would probably be wise to take it.

In the future, please say something that contributes, or just stfu. Trying to be a smartass at my expense is just plain stupid. How many times do I have to spank you kids before you learn this lesson?

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