Hexi
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xD Thank you... understand it now 
2x2 EG (Erik-Gunnar) Method
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Zarxrax
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To understand EG, you first need to understand Ortega and CLL. Because EG is to ortega what CLL is to layer-by-layer or beginners method.
You have 3 possible cases for the bottom layer: solved, a bar on one side, or no bar.
If the bottom layer is solved, you just do a normal CLL case to solve the top.
If you have a bar on the bottom layer, then you have another set of algs that are very similar to CLL. In fact, the recognition for the top layer is EXACTLY THE SAME as the normal CLL algs, but this set of algs also solves the bottom layer when you have a bar there.
Then finally, you have yet another set of algs which is once again practically the same, only they are used when there is nothing on the bottom layer.
If you can recognize CLL, then you can recognize any EG case.
You have 3 possible cases for the bottom layer: solved, a bar on one side, or no bar.
If the bottom layer is solved, you just do a normal CLL case to solve the top.
If you have a bar on the bottom layer, then you have another set of algs that are very similar to CLL. In fact, the recognition for the top layer is EXACTLY THE SAME as the normal CLL algs, but this set of algs also solves the bottom layer when you have a bar there.
Then finally, you have yet another set of algs which is once again practically the same, only they are used when there is nothing on the bottom layer.
If you can recognize CLL, then you can recognize any EG case.
Hexi
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So u think, that its better to learn CLL first and then EGs?
Erzz
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what's with the alots in peoples pics now?
And yeah, CLL then EG would probably be best
And yeah, CLL then EG would probably be best
Zarxrax
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CLL is a subset of EG.
Hexi
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Yeah.. but u can learn only CLL and it's still faster than guimond
Shortey
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Says who?
ShadenSmith
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Oh, okay.
kar0209
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Who said/wrote that?
Hexi
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that's just my opinion...
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Learn CLL, and do R2 F2 R2 for diagonal swaps. Then, learn EG-1, and do the same thing. Then, learn EG-2. I'm pretty sure that the WR avg was with anti-CLL, which is slightly different.
uberCuber
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take a look at the "I will make your avatar
" threadAnd when you didn't even know how EG worked yesterday, where do you get the idea that you know enough to make opinions of what is faster than anything else?
sorry, don't mean to be too rude to the new guy or anything, just saying, it is probably better to not make statements like "this is faster than that"
Hexi
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Cuz I can do guimond and it's 3-look method I think. And when CLL is only 1-2 look i think it's faster, because the "looks" take the most time.
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Kirjava
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This sounds very wrong.
cincyaviation
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Guimond is pretty freaking 2 look. And CLL is usually 2 look, an easy layer could make it 1.
More efficient way to learn full EG
Hey do younguys think it would be a good idea for me to learn all 3 algs for each 2x2 recognition at the same time? (CLL, EG-1 and EG-2). I was thinking I could just learn the algs t the same time except just apply whichever one came up, I plan to learn full EG at some point anyway so do you 2x2 guys out there think this is a good idea?
Hey do younguys think it would be a good idea for me to learn all 3 algs for each 2x2 recognition at the same time? (CLL, EG-1 and EG-2). I was thinking I could just learn the algs t the same time except just apply whichever one came up, I plan to learn full EG at some point anyway so do you 2x2 guys out there think this is a good idea?
Kirjava
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it would take a lot longer to be useful this way.
if you learned eg-1 first, you can start using a system better than ortega after 42 algs. if you learned it this way you'd have to learn the whole thing before you could really start to get to grips with doing non ortega solves all the time.
if you learned eg-1 first, you can start using a system better than ortega after 42 algs. if you learned it this way you'd have to learn the whole thing before you could really start to get to grips with doing non ortega solves all the time.
uberCuber
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Whether its a good idea or not, there is no more or less "efficient" way to learn a set of algs. It's the same number of algs regardless. It's just a question of how long it takes for it to become useful.
So EG-1 pre CLL? Because normally in my Ortega solves a J perm bottom layer is fastest.
uberCuber
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an adjacent swap bottom layer is also more common than a solved layer or an opposite swap, which gives EG-1 the potential to be more useful than either CLL or EG-2.
