2008: Changes to weekly competition

[Mike Hughey]

So now that the new rules are in effect, will we start applying the new rules with next week's competition? (2008-16) I assume it's too late to do it for this week's (2008-15), since some people have already done them prior to the rules finalization, and besides, the big cube scrambles are not correct.

And by the way, Arnaud, are you going to change to the new scramble notation next week?

There are some big changes that we'll all need to get used to, like the 15 seconds total time for inspection, and the blindfold removing-the-cover thing (and I assume we'll have to find some stand or other barrier to solve behind, if we want to be truly legitimate?). And Arnaud, what about the fewest moves scramble - will we switch to just a single Cube Explorer-generated scramble, instead of the long/short scrambles we're currently using? It would prevent the problem I think I ran into with 2008-14 (where it looked to me like the shortened and original scrambles were different - I'm still hoping I wasn't mistaken about that).

 

[shafiqdms1]

So like what is the purpose of these points given?

 

[AvGalen]

There isn't really a purpose other then to compare yourself to others and get some statistics/ranking.

 

[mazei]

You know like badminton rankings(well badminton is quite big in my country, so yeah), they are measured by points given to the players.

My thought was why not have that in the whole WCA(well this competition already has it). Well my idea is a little tough but not impossible. Maybe we can separate the points given in each event. So like 3x3 has its own points tally, 3x3 OH has its own, 5x5 BLD has its own,etc. but there is also another point tally which is the total so that those who are all-rounded are also looked at. Maybe if you do it that way then I don't think there would be all this talk about comparing which is more amazing, getting first out of 50 people in 3x3 or doing 5x5 BLD.

With that I go with 3c.

I just realized that maybe this should be on the WCA forum instead of here. But we can use it here as well(the separation of events)

 

[DavidWoner]

You know like badminton rankings(well badminton is quite big in my country, so yeah), they are measured by points given to the players.

My thought was why not have that in the whole WCA(well this competition already has it). Well my idea is a little tough but not impossible. Maybe we can separate the points given in each event. So like 3x3 has its own points tally, 3x3 OH has its own, 5x5 BLD has its own,etc. but there is also another point tally which is the total so that those who are all-rounded are also looked at. Maybe if you do it that way then I don't think there would be all this talk about comparing which is more amazing, getting first out of 50 people in 3x3 or doing 5x5 BLD.

With that I go with 3c.

I just realized that maybe this should be on the WCA forum instead of here. But we can use it here as well(the separation of events)

that seems unfair towards people who cannot go to a lot of competitions, or who have not been competing as long. Also, some sort of contrived points system would definitely not stop the arguing as to who is better.

 

[mazei]

You know like badminton rankings(well badminton is quite big in my country, so yeah), they are measured by points given to the players.

My thought was why not have that in the whole WCA(well this competition already has it). Well my idea is a little tough but not impossible. Maybe we can separate the points given in each event. So like 3x3 has its own points tally, 3x3 OH has its own, 5x5 BLD has its own,etc. but there is also another point tally which is the total so that those who are all-rounded are also looked at. Maybe if you do it that way then I don't think there would be all this talk about comparing which is more amazing, getting first out of 50 people in 3x3 or doing 5x5 BLD.

With that I go with 3c.

I just realized that maybe this should be on the WCA forum instead of here. But we can use it here as well(the separation of events)

that seems unfair towards people who cannot go to a lot of competitions, or who have not been competing as long. Also, some sort of contrived points system would definitely not stop the arguing as to who is better.

True. Perhaps should just try a medal tally type of system?

 

[DavidWoner]

You know like badminton rankings(well badminton is quite big in my country, so yeah), they are measured by points given to the players.

My thought was why not have that in the whole WCA(well this competition already has it). Well my idea is a little tough but not impossible. Maybe we can separate the points given in each event. So like 3x3 has its own points tally, 3x3 OH has its own, 5x5 BLD has its own,etc. but there is also another point tally which is the total so that those who are all-rounded are also looked at. Maybe if you do it that way then I don't think there would be all this talk about comparing which is more amazing, getting first out of 50 people in 3x3 or doing 5x5 BLD.

With that I go with 3c.

I just realized that maybe this should be on the WCA forum instead of here. But we can use it here as well(the separation of events)

that seems unfair towards people who cannot go to a lot of competitions, or who have not been competing as long. Also, some sort of contrived points system would definitely not stop the arguing as to who is better.

True. Perhaps should just try a medal tally type of system?

they're way ahead of you: http://www.worldcubeassociation.org/results/statistics.php

its a neat page, with a lot of cool stats

 

[mazei]

You know like badminton rankings(well badminton is quite big in my country, so yeah), they are measured by points given to the players.

My thought was why not have that in the whole WCA(well this competition already has it). Well my idea is a little tough but not impossible. Maybe we can separate the points given in each event. So like 3x3 has its own points tally, 3x3 OH has its own, 5x5 BLD has its own,etc. but there is also another point tally which is the total so that those who are all-rounded are also looked at. Maybe if you do it that way then I don't think there would be all this talk about comparing which is more amazing, getting first out of 50 people in 3x3 or doing 5x5 BLD.

With that I go with 3c.

I just realized that maybe this should be on the WCA forum instead of here. But we can use it here as well(the separation of events)

that seems unfair towards people who cannot go to a lot of competitions, or who have not been competing as long. Also, some sort of contrived points system would definitely not stop the arguing as to who is better.

True. Perhaps should just try a medal tally type of system?

they're way ahead of you: http://www.worldcubeassociation.org/results/statistics.php

its a neat page, with a lot of cool stats

I know about that but do they actually use it?