The "Why I hate this event..." and "Why this event should be added" thread

[Deleted member 19792]

What if 3 tiles in the bottom row are off by 1 slide? DNF? +2? What if only 2 in the bottom row are off by a slide?

I'm not really against adding it but I think it would be hard to judge. Also doesn't it kind of take a long time to scramble properly?

If it can be solved with one push (move) then it would be a +2. If it is two moves, then it is DNF.

Also, scrambling would be different, as it SHOULD be a solve to scramble. The random move sequence is very icky.

 

[Royiky]

Yeah, but factory solves would be impossible to define, because there are many different methods and sub methods to solving, what some consider to be a step, others might not.

What about move move factory solves

 

[10461394944000]

What if 3 tiles in the bottom row are off by 1 slide? DNF? +2? What if only 2 in the bottom row are off by a slide?

I'm not really against adding it but I think it would be hard to judge. Also doesn't it kind of take a long time to scramble properly?

actually if there was a random state scrambler for real 15 puzzle (i don't know of any, apart from using an optimal solver and manually reversing the solution) it would be faster than using random move scrambles because the average optimal solution length is only about 52

 

[Deleted member 19792]

actually if there was a random state scrambler for real 15 puzzle (i don't know of any, apart from using an optimal solver and manually reversing the solution) it would be faster than using random move scrambles because the average optimal solution length is only about 52

That is something I did not know O.o

 

[Rocky0701]

What about move move factory solves

Yeah, but it would have to be like 5 or 10 moves instead of one.

 

[10461394944000]

That is something I did not know O.o

http://kociemba.org/fifteen/fifteensolver.html

 

[Deleted member 19792]

Anyone else hate feet?

 

[AlexCube]

2x2 blindfolded and one-handed!

 

[Coolster01]

Anyone else hate feet?

My least favorite bump ever ;(

 

[Sajwo]

I demand removing feet and clock as official events.

 

[Ninja Storm]

Anyone else hate feet?

As my previous post had words deemed too explicit for SS, I'll rephrase.

Stop forcing your opinion down other people's throats. Nobody cares how much you hate feet.

 

[kcl]

Anyone else hate feet?

I hate pyraminx, I guess they should just remove it. I hate megaminx, I guess they should just remove it.

Come on dude. Nothing is getting removed.

 

[Ollie]

The only arguments for getting rid of feet are that it's disgusting (feet are cleaner than hands, usually) and that it's stupid, but without any justification why it is.

Close this thread. If someone puts forward a decent argument for removing/adding a specific event then it will get it's own thread. This makes it easier for WCA and forum members to consider all the arguments for and against since all the arguments for a specific event will be in one place, rather than filtering through one long pointless thread full of stupid comments like "7bld with one foot" and arguments for 5/6 different event suggestions.

 

[applemobile]

Remove feet. It's dangerous.

 

[Lucas Garron]

The only arguments for getting rid of feet are that it's disgusting (feet are cleaner than hands, usually) and that it's stupid, but without any justification why it is.

You have some partial justification in that sentence already. And people *do* have more justification for these things.
Maybe you'd disagree with them, but it hardly helps your case to dismiss them.

Close this thread. If someone puts forward a decent argument for removing/adding a specific event then it will get it's own thread. This makes it easier for WCA and forum members to consider all the arguments for and against since all the arguments for a specific event will be in one place, rather than filtering through one long pointless thread full of stupid comments like "7bld with one foot" and arguments for 5/6 different event suggestions.

People will want to discuss adding events no matter what. Nearly all of it is useless, so it might as well be in one place.

If something is actually a real contender for an event, someone will make a separate thread for it anyhow.

 

[Ollie]

You have some partial justification in that sentence already. And people *do* have more justification for these things.
Maybe you'd disagree with them, but it hardly helps your case to dismiss them.

I don't have an opinion either way. Using this thread as an example, the only decent argument put forward is by Cornelius regarding how feet impacts the image of cubing in a negative way. The other arguments are mere statements that "feet is stupid" which carries no weight. I could replace "feet" for "one-hand" and the argument remains the same.

People will want to discuss adding events no matter what. Nearly all of it is useless, so it might as well be in one place.

If something is actually a real contender for an event, someone will make a separate thread for it anyhow.

If someone makes a single thread for something and stimulates a good debate, how likely are you to keep referring to this thread with all the useless comments in one place?

EDIT: obviously not saying everyone's comments are stupid and people are capable of making good arguments in this thread, of course. Why settle for 12 carat gold when you can have 24?

 

[DoctorPepper]

Idk why but I'd love to see shape mods in future WCA competitions. Ghost cube, anyone?

 

[10461394944000]

People will want to discuss adding events no matter what. Nearly all of it is useless, so it might as well be in one place.

classic moderator, closing threads that people want open and not closing stupid threads.

but anyway, we should remove 6x6 and 7x7 and replace them with 3x3 underwater because I say so.

 

[Lucas Garron]

I don't have an opinion either way. Using this thread as an example, the only decent argument put forward is by Cornelius regarding how feet impacts the image of cubing in a negative way.

Then this thread is not a good example, and you haven't good reasons for not holding feet.
(Your first post didn't say anything about "in this thread", it made a universal statement about arguments against feet.)

If someone makes a single thread for something and stimulates a good debate, how likely are you to keep referring to this thread with all the useless comments in one place?

Not very? Most of the useless comments are about events that simply don't have enough merit.

EDIT: obviously not saying everyone's comments are stupid and people are capable of making good arguments in this thread, of course. Why settle for 12 carat gold when you can have 24?[/QUOTE]
Because we won't have 24?

I don't mind having a silly thread where everything throws out what their opinions on puzzles. The title of this thread is very apt for that.

classic moderator, closing threads that people want open and not closing stupid threads.

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but anyway, we should remove 6x6 and 7x7 and replace them with 3x3 underwater because I say so.

??

 

[Deleted member 19792]

I was just attempting to keep discussion going.

Yeah. Keep everything in this thread, anyway. You don't want the annoying repost of why the same event should be removed or whatever. It is spam. Just like the accomplishment thread.