Incorperating ELL & L3C to the OLL of a CFOP solve.

[NZCuber]

I am wondering if incorporating ELL & L3C to the OLL of a solve would help speed up your times.

With Ell, if all of the corners are orientated then you can place you edges and just get corner cases for your PLL.

With L3C, If all edge pieces and one corner are orientated then you can place the corners and you would get edge cases.

Please agree or disagree and a comment telling why. :tu

 

[tx789]

If you get a CLL skip then if you use ELL you will one look the case. What you desired as L3C sounds like a subset of ZB (the suns set). It might speed up your times but F2L is the thing most people could improve the most at.

 

[scottishcuber]

With Ell, if all of the corners are orientated then you can place you edges and just get corner cases for your PLL.

All that effort in recognition and recall, just to force an A-perm or an E-perm? No, thanks.

With L3C, If all edge pieces and one corner are orientated then you can place the corners and you would get edge cases.

That's just COLL for the sune and antisune set. And the algs aren't very good.

 

[KiwiCuber]

All that effort in recognition and recall, just to force an A-perm or an E-perm? No, thanks.

My thoughts exactly. Especially getting an E perm