rj
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SS gets expensive.
Don't Buy an 11x11, Here's Why
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SS gets expensive.
kcl
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You realize of course, he thought of the idea of having a pillowed 7x7 back in the day.. Not to mention fatter edges on cubic 7x7s.. And it's good to see it being implemented into designs nowadays
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Doubtful.
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I respect Verdes for being the first to come up with a good design for bigger cubes, but the fact is that they didn't produce anything bigger than 7x7. This isn't like downloading music for free at all. Maybe a better analogy would be that someone has an idea for a song, which is pretty similar to an existing, popular song but also has some new elements, and they produce the song, and then we all like that new song and go buy the new artist's album.
Shengshou thought they could make profit on a cube bigger than 7x7. So they went and made the first cubical 8x8, and mass produced it. I guess they must have made some money off of that, since they went and made a cubical 9x9 and 10x10 too. Now V-Cubes has the cube designs (in the original form), puzzle factories, their puzzles in many physical stores, good advertising, etc. - surely if SS can make a profit they can. V-Cubes is even known in the greater puzzle/toy community (unlike SS, I believe) so they should have a significantly bigger customer base to sell cubes to. I have a feeling factors other than rational business decisions are at play here.
I wonder if twistypuzzlers would still hate SS in that case, or if a shift in legality would suddenly make them happy to discuss the "knockoffs".
PS: I have no respect for companies like "X-Cube" (Zhuo Wei Di) that blatantly copy V-Cube packaging. That is really just the same counterfeiting practices that produce replica Gucci bags and Rolex watches. But when it comes to cubes that ride on their own merits, and which may have a related mechanism, it is a different story. That kind of competition, of several companies trying to produce the best puzzle, is good for the speedcubing community.
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BrainOfSweden
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IIRC it get's censored to "the knock-off company". At least everyone gets butthurt.
applemobile
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People who refuse to buy anything but v-cubes are morons, absolute morons. I'm not even going to justify this statement.
Stefan
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You mean less cheap.
TheNextFeliks
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That is a postulate. Requires absolutely no proof.
rj
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No, they're just closed-minded.
EMI
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For example? Producing in China is propably quite a lot cheaper than producing in Greece.
I totally understand if people don't want to buy V-cubes. I'm just saying remember where we would be without Verdes. Censoring KO companies' names might have little effect. The point of it is to show loyalty to the original puzzle designers that use the tp forum to announce their puzzles. This is the case with small designers as well with companies like Verdes or Meffert's.
BTW, there have been other, great V-cubes than 5 - 7 since 2008. Obviously they would make the small ones first as they are likely to be more profitable. So the "we have been waiting for new cubes to come out from then since 2008" story is only partly true.
Kirjava
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V Cubes killed my father.
rj
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Nooooo!
Antonie faz fan
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Whaaaaaaat?
XTowncuber
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When V-Cubes launched torpedoes at DaYan he was caught in the explosion.
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