Don't Buy an 11x11, Here's Why

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1. You know what other cubes have black or white plastic available? I don't know, maybe, ALL OF THEM. Also, they make it pillowed because it's either that or they make it like Shengshou 7x7+. You clearly still haven't heard of the square-cube law. You don't say? A Yuxin 11x11 looks like a V-Cube 7? Ha! I have a Zhanchi that looks like Rubik's brand! Weird, huh?
2. Cheaper price is better. Nuff said.
3. Tell us a better way to make a mechanism for an 11x11.
I'm buying 11 11x11s now. kbai

EDIT: You really need to stop making these kinds of threads.
 
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In 2004, V-Cubes (called "olympicube" at the time) claimed on twistypuzzles that in a few months they would start production on a 6x6x6, something which nobody had done before. Soon they started claiming 2x2x2 all the way through 11x11x11. Every once in a while, they would make new posts, alternately providing small amounts of info, pushing back their release date, and arguing with/criticizing various forum members. At the beginning it seemed pretty plausible, but after a few years, a lot of people were pretty sure the cubes would never materialize.

But, in 2008, they did indeed show up. Well, the 5x5x5 through 7x7x7 anyway. It was still pretty amazing, and yes, it did revolutionize bigcubing. The 5x5x5 was a better design than any existing cube, and simply having a 6x6x6 and 7x7x7 (let alone ones that turned pretty decently) was incredible. Their website still claimed 2x2x2 through 11x11x11 but now it seemed like a guarantee. They'd already produced three great cubes, so we just had to wait around a bit and there would be more. So we waited. When the first knockoff came out it seemed like they were being unfair to V-Cubes and we just had to wait a little more for the real deal.

But it's been a while, again - five years or so. By now people are yet again skeptical, wondering if V-Cubes has any intention of ever producing cubes bigger than 7x7x7. The vast majority of cubers nowadays haven't been around for anything near that long, but even so, it should be easy to see that a lot of cube brands and puzzle ideas have went from first concept to mass-production in that time, from many different companies. And as far as I know, we haven't seen so much as a picture of a prototype of bigger cubes from V-Cube. So we have to make a distinction between a cheap copy of someone else's mechanism, and someone taking the initiative to produce a puzzle for the cubing community, one which won't otherwise get produced. We've already got one type of 11x11x11, and honestly I think it's way more likely that the second will be produced not by V-Cube but by Shengshou. According to a lot of people, SS has surpassed V-Cube's quality anyway.

So the point is, I don't think they're actually going to make an 11x11x11. Don't hold your breath waiting for it.
 
BrandonSky said:
2: The price of the puzzle. I found an 11x11 on Amazon. It costed only around 160 dollars. A legitimate V-Cube 11 would have the price higher.
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This means I am going to pay 200 USD + for a legit 11x11? I think we already have one my friend.

I do see your points. And you are new to this forum. This is a place where in knockoff talk, ANYTHING GOES :)

Welcome to the forum #SpeedSolving
 
qqwref said:
In 2004, V-Cubes (called "olympicube" at the time) claimed on twistypuzzles that in a few months they would start production on a 6x6x6, something which nobody had done before. Soon they started claiming 2x2x2 all the way through 11x11x11. Every once in a while, they would make new posts, alternately providing small amounts of info, pushing back their release date, and arguing with/criticizing various forum members. At the beginning it seemed pretty plausible, but after a few years, a lot of people were pretty sure the cubes would never materialize.

But, in 2008, they did indeed show up. Well, the 5x5x5 through 7x7x7 anyway. It was still pretty amazing, and yes, it did revolutionize bigcubing. The 5x5x5 was a better design than any existing cube, and simply having a 6x6x6 and 7x7x7 (let alone ones that turned pretty decently) was incredible. Their website still claimed 2x2x2 through 11x11x11 but now it seemed like a guarantee. They'd already produced three great cubes, so we just had to wait around a bit and there would be more. So we waited. When the first knockoff came out it seemed like they were being unfair to V-Cubes and we just had to wait a little more for the real deal.

But it's been a while, again - five years or so. By now people are yet again skeptical, wondering if V-Cubes has any intention of ever producing cubes bigger than 7x7x7. The vast majority of cubers nowadays haven't been around for anything near that long, but even so, it should be easy to see that a lot of cube brands and puzzle ideas have went from first concept to mass-production in that time, from many different companies. And as far as I know, we haven't seen so much as a picture of a prototype of bigger cubes from V-Cube. So we have to make a distinction between a cheap copy of someone else's mechanism, and someone taking the initiative to produce a puzzle for the cubing community, one which won't otherwise get produced. We've already got one type of 11x11x11, and honestly I think it's way more likely that the second will be produced not by V-Cube but by Shengshou. According to a lot of people, SS has surpassed V-Cube's quality anyway.

So the point is, I don't think they're actually going to make an 11x11x11. Don't hold your breath waiting for it.
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This is some of the clearest info on the current feelings of the "old boys" here. Read this and soak it in. V-CUBES have done incredible things for the community, but they are not the bastion of perfection that some seem to think.
 
I don't think Patents and Copyright laws are not really working towards the goal that they were created for in the first place.
It will be interesting to see what people will say when V-Cube patent expires, and they do not create an 11x11 in that time span.
Thinking of a purely nonsense example, assume you'd create a pill to cure cancer, patent it, and just sit on it, paying maintenance fees for 20 years, not producing it, because in your view it wouldn't make money or be worth the hassle or just be like that, and sue people that used your ingredients to save people's lives.
You would not be the most loved person in the world that's for sure.
 
I already own a black 11x11 cube. I got it from http://www.51morefun.com . So far, I've done one solve on it and it took me about 150 minutes.

It is not a bad cube.

But I do agree that V-Cubes should hurry up and release an official one sooner rather than later.
 
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