US Nationals 2014 - Jersey City, New Jersey - August 1-3, 2014

Probably around the end of the Summer, or in September 2014

If we were to have one in 2013, December? :D

I can agree with that. But I think we can start an online organizational team and through that I can gather all the information and such, then utilize it at a Venue (GRB Convention)

I would not mind all of the work to put into this. Its kinda the cost that matters. But, I was talking to Shonathon and he is holding another competition this year, and maybe a winter one next year.

:)

If anyone is willing to attempt that, please PM me!
 
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strakerak said:
I can agree with that. But I think we can start an online organizational team and through that I can gather all the information and such, then utilize it at a Venue (GRB Convention)

I would not mind all of the work to put into this. Its kinda the cost that matters. But, I was talking to Shonathon and he is holding another competition this year, and maybe a winter one next year.

:)

If anyone is willing to attempt that, please PM me!
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I don't think they'll trust organizing any competition, let alone US Nationals, to someone who is pretty much only known as a liar/shady character.
 
Noahaha said:
I don't think they'll trust organizing any competition, let alone US Nationals, to someone who is pretty much only known as a liar/shady character.
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I already have two venues that I can reserve.. (Both hotels)

Please stop with the lying ;/ that was a while ago. Ok?

Total cost of both venues is around 10K USD each. So its going to be pretty hard. Hopefully competition costs will aid in that case.

The venue has 3400 SQ Ft for the main competing area and the other room which is around 2800 or less-ish will be for blind/FMC/Consolations if needed.
 
strakerak said:
I already have two venues that I can reserve.. (Both hotels)

Please stop with the lying ;/ that was a while ago. Ok?

Total cost of both venues is around 10K USD each. So its going to be pretty hard. Hopefully competition costs will aid in that case.

The venue has 3400 SQ Ft for the main competing area and the other room which is around 2800 or less-ish will be for blind/FMC/Consolations if needed.
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I'm just saying, from what most people know of you, you are not a trustworthy individual. That doesn't necessarily mean you are entirely untrustworthy, but you have no evidence to contradict that.

That being said, it's possible that you could end up organizing nats, but naming two hotels and how much it would cost to use them is not even the beginning of the kind of organizing you would need to do.

You would need to put together a team of organizers and work with them to make it happen. One will not simply be placed into your hands once you've found a suitable venue. With your low level of competition experience, however, I don't think you'd be suitable to do really any organizing past finding a venue, and that's why your pitch is pretty weak.
 
strakerak said:
I already have two venues that I can reserve.. (Both hotels)

Please stop with the lying ;/ that was a while ago. Ok?

Total cost of both venues is around 10K USD each. So its going to be pretty hard. Hopefully competition costs will aid in that case.

The venue has 3400 SQ Ft for the main competing area and the other room which is around 2800 or less-ish will be for blind/FMC/Consolations if needed.
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I think the shady character reference was because of the "selling 2nd hand cube for > new prices".
Also, if you are 16 (as you mentioned previously) there is no way that you can reserve venues that cost around 10K.
Finally, you have been to 2 comps, both roughly 50 competitors and haven't organised anything or made any delegate-request. But you think you can organise NATS?????
 
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AvGalen said:
I think the shady character reference was because of the "selling 2nd hand cube for > new prices".
Also, if you are 16 (as you mentioned previously) there is no way that you can reserve venues that cost around 10K.
Finally, you have been to 2 comps, both roughly 50 competitors and haven't organised anything or made any delegate-request. But you think you can organise NATS?????
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The shady character was because of the cube thing. The lying was from when he was pretending to be a good BLD solver even though he couldn't even do 3BLD.
 
AvGalen said:
I think the shady character reference was because of the "selling 2nd hand cube for > new prices".
Also, if you are 16 (as you mentioned previously) there is no way that you can reserve venues that cost around 10K.
Finally, you have been to 2 comps, both roughly 50 competitors and haven't organised anything or made any delegate-request. But you think you can organise NATS?????
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1. You keep referring to zcube.cn, where it is reliable but my product has not even arrive
A. They are rising in popularity.
i. They have raised prices on their Dayan products.

2. I am working with the Syrian American Club, a Texas based school for Arabic literature to help sponsor this (if able) through an Eid party, All the costs will be covered, then the proceeds from that and the competition (if held) will be donated to Syrian Charity.

3. Yes ma'am

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The shady character was because of the cube thing. The lying was from when he was pretending to be a good BLD solver even though he couldn't even do 3BLD.
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1. And if that is a problem, what is the problem with random hairy guys photoshopping things together that should not be photoshopped.

Dene said:
To those of you who don't like Las Vegas, I wonder exactly why? More specifically to those people, have you actually been to Las Vegas or are you just coming to your own assumptions about the place?

To be fair, I can understand where you people are coming from, because before I came here I was unhappy with the idea of Las Vegas, given the reputation, and I figured there wouldn't be anything here for me. But let's throw some stuff out there:

- I don't gamble
- I don't drink, smoke, or take drugs (100% straight edge my entire life)
- I am not a big fan of any sort of shopping (i.e. clothes or souvenirs)
- I have no interest in strip shows, strip clubs, strippers, hookers, or anything else of that sort
- I am not a "nightlife" kind of person; in fact 10:30 is a late night for me on a normal Friday or Saturday night, and I would usually only stay up that late for important footy matches

Given these things, it would be understandable to many people why Las Vegas did not appeal to me before I visited here.

However, what I have quickly found out since the competition ended and I actually got out of the hotel is that there is so much more to Vegas than strippers and gambling. I'm here until Friday evening, but I suspect that I still won't have time to see everything that there is to see, and do everything that there is to do. Here are just some examples of places to go and activities to do (many of them completely free):
- All of the malls (casinos/hotels) up and down The Strip, such as Mirage, The Venetian, Caesars Palace, New York New York, Paris Las Vegas etc. etc.
- Circus Circus Adventuredome
- The Stratosphere tower and the rides up the top
- The roller coaster at NYNY
- M&Ms world
- The awesome water feature shows in front of Bellagio
- The volcano (which I have yet to see, but I really want to get there)
- The Treasure Island show (out front on the pirate ships)
- Family friendly shows (for example, I went to see Cirque du Soleil, and I'm really annoyed I didn't look up Penn and Teller sooner, because they don't do shows on Thursday or Friday so I'm missing out :( ). There are plenty of other options for magic shows, and things as well, such as David Copperfield, whom I am hoping I will be able to see tomorrow night now I missed out on Penn and Teller
- Grand Canyon or Hoover Dam trips
- Buskers that pop up along The Strip

The list goes on and on. Las Vegas does have an "icky" side to it, but there is also so much to do for people who want to stick to more "family friendly" activities. In fact, I can't think of another city in the world which matches Las Vegas when comparing the numerousness, convenience, and availability of things-to-do.

tl;dr There is so much to do here in Las Vegas, and almost all of it is conveniently located on one street! What isn't to love about that? The only negative about this place is the insane heat.
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I have been to Vegas a couple of times and enjoyed it. But with all the heat, family doesn't want to go during Ramadan as well and such, I can't do it for a while :)

Noahaha said:
I'm just saying, from what most people know of you, you are not a trustworthy individual. That doesn't necessarily mean you are entirely untrustworthy, but you have no evidence to contradict that.

That being said, it's possible that you could end up organizing nats, but naming two hotels and how much it would cost to use them is not even the beginning of the kind of organizing you would need to do.

You would need to put together a team of organizers and work with them to make it happen. One will not simply be placed into your hands once you've found a suitable venue. With your low level of competition experience, however, I don't think you'd be suitable to do really any organizing past finding a venue, and that's why your pitch is pretty weak.
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I can agree, but I was stupid at that time and was too egotistical because I had to go through bad times at school. That is not the main cause of this. But i wanted to be an attention pimp as well. But to many people, I can be trustworthy.

I just checked the SS forums today about the situation and i went ahead and looked for hotels. Yes it might cost 10K USD, but SAC did volunteer to help run a fundraiser as long as all raised profits went to charity.

I believe that I can do this as long as I can put the dedication through it. Thats why I wanted to start a collaborative team. Its all up to those who want to join or not. But the team that does help, would be kind of a godsend. Like Dayan, to some cubers
 
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I believe that I can do this as long as I can put the dedication through it. Thats why I wanted to start a collaborative team. Its all up to those who want to join or not. But the team that does help, would be kind of a godsend. Like Dayan, to some cubers
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Dedication is nothing without organisation.
You have no prior competition-holding experience.
Stop while you're ahead.
 
strakerak said:
the proceeds from that and the competition (if held) will be donated to Syrian Charity.
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Yay for a competition that also donates money!

Ontopic: I think you should just hold a normal comp first. After that, if he really thinks it was super-duper easy, we can go from there. Take it one step at a time. Tbh, holding a normal comp might be too early at this point. I think helping during comps is a good idea before organizing one. I haven't held one, but I'm just going by what Bob Burton and other experienced organizers have said.
 
I used to want it in a different place more, but I don't really care that much now. This doesn't apply everyone, but I'm always totally fine with just hanging out and talking to people, so it doesn't really matter where I am for that :D
 
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