Skewb will be an Official WCA event?

[Sa967St]

Updated the thread with a poll.

Poll edited. The options (and the question itself) were not clear at all before.

IMO the poll is very pointless. All of this has been discussed before, and whether it's added or not isn't solely based on a popularity contest.

If this thread should serve any purpose, it should be be for discussing how far along skewb is towards becoming an official event, and how it will or won't work.

 

[Michael Womack]

Poll edited. The options (and the question itself) were not clear at all before.

IMO the poll is very pointless. All of this has been discussed before, and whether it's added or not isn't solely based on a popularity contest.

If this thread should serve any purpose, it should be be for discussing how far along skewb is towards becoming an official event, and how it will or won't work.

That turns my poll answer into no But I wanted Yes.

 

[Sa967St]

That turns my poll answer into no But I wanted Yes.

The numbers still add up. Don't worry about what your result says you voted for.

 

[Michael Womack]

The numbers still add up. Don't worry about what your result says you voted for.

Thank you.

 

[Dene]

I'm going to just throw it out there... I will do everything I can to prevent skewb from becoming an official event (which is probably not much but if I put my mind to it I could at least try...). The last thing we need is another silly, quick event which is heavily influenced by luck.

 

[Username]

I'm going to just throw it out there... I will do everything I can to prevent skewb from becoming an official event (which is probably not much but if I put my mind to it I could at least try...). The last thing we need is another silly, quick event which is heavily influenced by luck.

I kinda agree with this. I will not prevent it from becoming official, But I certainly don't want it to be an event

 

[~Adam~]

The last thing we need is another silly, quick event which is heavily influenced by luck.

Skewb would be considered fun by many people for those reasons.

 

[cubecraze1]

I kinda agree with this. I will not prevent it from becoming official, But I certainly don't want it to be an event

Dene's reasons are because he is an organiser and delegate thus has reasoning to think this. Why do you think this?

 

[tx789]

I'm going to just throw it out there... I will do everything I can to prevent skewb from becoming an official event (which is probably not much but if I put my mind to it I could at least try...). The last thing we need is another silly, quick event which is heavily influenced by luck.

Those I'm sure nearly everyone will say nothing is worst than magics.

 

[Username]

Dene's reasons are because he is an organiser and delegate thus has reasoning to think this. Why do you think this?

I know that. I just agree with the part that skewb is silly and shouldn't be an official event. Personally I think we have enough events, and no events should be added/taken away.

 

[AvGalen]

I'm going to just throw it out there... I will do everything I can to prevent skewb from becoming an official event (which is probably not much but if I put my mind to it I could at least try...). The last thing we need is another silly, quick event which is heavily influenced by luck.

So 222 should go and skewb ultimate is okay for you?

I vote for "more official events, and just don't put them in your competition if you don't like them"

 

[Ranzha]

I'm going to just throw it out there... I will do everything I can to prevent skewb from becoming an official event (which is probably not much but if I put my mind to it I could at least try...). The last thing we need is another silly, quick event which is heavily influenced by luck.

It's not lucky if you don't know the case! If an easy peasy scramble shows up in competition, I still would never peg someone who isn't at LEAST sub-8 to get the record potentially. It's the turning style. You can see people getting ridiculous tps and times on 2x2 and pyra because the turning is easier, but skewb's a monster to grip efficiently. And looking ahead for a 1-look solve is nearly impossible.

This said, getting lucky isn't a crime! =)

 

[Pedro]

So 222 should go and skewb ultimate is okay for you?

I vote for "more official events, and just don't put them in your competition if you don't like them"

But people are gonna complain a lot if you don't include them...

"Why not, it's so fast...people are gonna take like 10s to solve, it's not a problem...please, please, please"

 

[DuffyEdge]

"Why not, it's so fast...people are gonna take like 10s to solve, it's not a problem...please, please, please"

I don't know if many people behave in this way?

 

[kunparekh18]

Instead of adding new puzzles as official events, I think adding things like relays, MTS, and such would be more fun.

 

[Michael Womack]

So 222 should go and skewb ultimate is okay for you?

I vote for "more official events, and just don't put them in your competition if you don't like them"

Don't you remember the removal of magic and skewb will take its place. I do not see why 2x2x2 would get removed.

 

[cubizh]

I have to agree with Arnaud. More events is better than less. Organizers are free to pick what events they want. I don't think there's a redundancy issue. I don't see any issues in currently having 6 events that use the exact same puzzle. They all have a purpose and involve very different techniques altogether.

There are certain things that should be taken into consideration before adding anything.
There needs to exist some sort of tangible criteria to add/remove events as official events other than "it feels like it should be" or "I like/dislike it, so...".

I think it's appropriate to quote WCA's mission:

The World Cube Association governs competitions for all puzzles labelled as Rubik puzzles, and all other puzzles that are played by twisting the sides, so-called 'twisty puzzles'. Most famous of these puzzles is the Rubik's Cube, invented by professor Rubik from Hungary. A selection of these puzzles are chosen as official events of WCA.

That criteria to select which twisty puzzles should be chosen is something that can be extremely hard to do in a fair and unbiased way, and I think that's one of the main problems.
Also, it needs to be clarified a bit more what exactly is involved in making an event official, other than the obligation of adding it to the WCA database and webpage, having extra columns in spreadsheets and having it at Worlds. What does it mean? Can sponsorships be involved?

It's a good discussion.

 

[AvGalen]

Don't you remember the removal of magic and skewb will take its place. I do not see why 2x2x2 would get removed.

I was not being serious. I was just pointing out something to Dene.
Also Skewb is not "taking the place of Magic". Magic was just removed because it had nothing to do with solving (and many other reasons). Skewb requires solving skills

 

[ben1996123]

Instead of adding new puzzles as official events, I think adding things like relays, MTS, and such would be more fun.

relays add nothing new

 

[kunparekh18]

relays add nothing new

Exactly