How do you solve a supercube? and where to buy stickers?

[cookingfat]

Hi all, I'm interested in learning how to solve a supercube (with coloured arrows) like the ones on Gabbasoft cube demo >

I looked on youtube but couldn't really find anything.

also, is there anywhere that sells stickers just like those? (for a 3x3x3)

thanks

 

[TimMc]

Dude.

Go back to Google.com and type:

supercube stickers

Then press Search.

Tim.

EDIT:

Cubesmith sell black-arrowed stickers... o.O

EDIT2:

That's a Shepherd's cube.

 

[cookingfat]

I seen the black arrows, but that's a shepherd's cube.

I googled supercube stickers and these are the ones on cubesmith >

http://cubesmith.com/Supercubes.htm

they are not the ones I want. I want the 'coloured' arrows, not a shepherds cube or what cubesmith call a supercube.

don't reply if you're not going to help.

 

[TimMc]

If you want to learn how to solve it, just solve the colors as per normal.

Then fix the centers.

Rotate the top center 90 degrees clockwise:
(M' E M E') (M' E M E') R (M' E M E') R'

Rotate the top center 90 degrees counter-clockwise:
(M' E M E') (M' E M E') R' (M' E M E') R

Rotate the top center 180 degrees:
J Permutation Twice (or T, R... just about any PLL twice)

Tim.

 

[cookingfat]

If you want to learn how to solve it, just solve the colors as per normal.

Then fix the centers.

Rotate the top center 90 degrees clockwise:
(M' E M E') (M' E M E') R (M' E M E') R'

Rotate the top center 90 degrees counter-clockwise:
(M' E M E') (M' E M E') R' (M' E M E') R

Rotate the top center 180 degrees:
J Permutation Twice (or T, R... just about any PLL twice)

Tim.

thanks, that's how it's done then.

so you do this once you solve all the colours right?

I know which way M' and M go, but does E go from right to left or left to right?

sorry I'm still learning.

 

[TimMc]

thanks, that's how it's done then.

so you do this once you solve all the colours right?

I know which way M' and M go, but does E go from right to left or left to right?

sorry I'm still learning.

It's ok, there's various notation available. So it can get confusing.

E is the same as U except you turn the middle layer instead of the top (I'm a little rusty on my notation too).

I'd recommend trying to orient most of the centers as you're solving so that you only have two centers to fix at the end. This can be done intuitively.

Tim.

 

[cookingfat]

thanks, that's how it's done then.

so you do this once you solve all the colours right?

I know which way M' and M go, but does E go from right to left or left to right?

sorry I'm still learning.

E is the same as U except you turn the middle layer instead of the top.

spot on. Thanks.

actually, the algorithms that you posted turn the 'RIGHT' centre piece, not the 'TOP' one.

 

[DAE_JA_VOO]

Solving a cube like this is too easy though. It's like solving a regular cube, except you need to keep the orientation of the centers in mind.

Solving a Sherpard's cube is a whole other board game IMO...

 

[Rosson91]

it's like solving a normal cube but at the end you can have the center piece of the LL that is wrongly oriented. you have to do 2 T perms to turn it.
I have also a video with a solve: http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=gi4nAE5k-G8
I made the stickers by myself.

 

[TimMc]

actually, the algorithms that you posted turn the 'RIGHT' centre piece, not the 'TOP' one.

lol sorry, I transposed it in my head when executing it. The algorithm I typed was just what I'd memorized - different from how I execute it <.<

Tim.

 

[Neutrals01]

E is like turning D(1 layer away from D) , M is like turning L(1 layer away from L), S is like turning F(1 layer away from F).

 

[MistArts]

Phew, no one said 3 U-perms yet.

 

[Mike Hughey]

Phew, no one said 3 U-perms yet.

Sorry - I don't quite understand why you're so down on this? 3 U-perms does the same thing as TimMc's algorithm does ((M' E M E') (M' E M E') R (M' E M E') R'). It rotates the top center 90 degrees as well as the right center. So does 3 U-perms. And 3 U-perms is very easy for someone to remember who doesn't care about getting particularly good at it. So it's inefficient, but what's wrong with using it?

I use 3 U-perms to rotate centers 90 degrees.

 

[MistArts]

Phew, no one said 3 U-perms yet.

Sorry - I don't quite understand why you're so down on this? 3 U-perms does the same thing as TimMc's algorithm does ((M' E M E') (M' E M E') R (M' E M E') R'). It rotates the top center 90 degrees as well as the right center. So does 3 U-perms. And 3 U-perms is very easy for someone to remember who doesn't care about getting particularly good at it. So it's inefficient, but what's wrong with using it?

I use 3 U-perms to rotate centers 90 degrees.

Like people who say 3 U-perms for rotating the top center only for 90 degrees.

 

[Raffael]

These are the ones I use for solving the centers in the end:

U 90° clockwise + F 90° counterclockwise:
(F B')(L R')(U D') F' (U' D) (L' R) (F' B) U

U 90° clockwise + D 90° counterclockwise:
(R L') (F2 B2) (R L') U (R L') (F2 B2) (R L') D'

U 180° clockwise
U (R L U2 R' L') U (R L U2 R' L')

 

[cookingfat]

These are the ones I use for solving the centers in the end:

U 90° clockwise + F 90° counterclockwise:
(F B')(L R')(U D') F' (U' D) (L' R) (F' B) U

U 90° clockwise + D 90° counterclockwise:
(R L') (F2 B2) (R L') U (R L') (F2 B2) (R L') D'

U 180° clockwise
U (R L U2 R' L') U (R L U2 R' L')

interesting, I might give those a try. thanks a lot.

I'm not really into doing computer cubes and would rather practice this on a real cube.

what do you guys use? did you make custom stickers or are you using gabbasoft?

 

[Raffael]

interesting, I might give those a try. thanks a lot.

I'm not really into doing computer cubes and would rather practice this on a real cube.

what do you guys use? did you make custom stickers or are you using gabbasoft?

both actually.i've been using Gabbasoft for quite some time now and i have built 2 picture cubes myself.

 

[cookingfat]

that's cool, how do you make custom stickers? what do you need?

 

[rjohnson_8ball]

cookingfat, Although the supercube stickers at Cubesmith.com do not have arrows, they do have colors on the edges of stickers to indicate their unique orientations (designed by Stefan Pochmann). Oh -- but it looks like he does not support 3x3 and he is out of 4x4 and 5x5 supercube stickers. Oh well.

One way to get a 90 twist on 2 centers is to first turn the cube into a 4-dot (or 6-dot) pattern, then rotate a face 90 degrees, then undo the 4-dot (or 6-dot) pattern.

I like to do 180 twist on U face center with (L R U L' R' U2)*2.

When I solve a 3x3 supercube, I try to get the D center correct as I make the cross, and the side centers correct before I begin the last layer. Then when I finish the last layer I only have just a center or two to fix.

Supercubes of size 4x4 or 7x7 are much more difficult than 3x3. You will need to be able to swap cubies within a particular center. (In particular, a 3-cycle swap of cubies in the center is useful.) You can search for my earlier post if you get stuck on that.