Avg of 12 for your PLLs

[DavidWoner]

lol i feel so horrible getting times like mine compared to you guys'.

but thats alright, i dont think i should try this with OH, i barely know my PLLs in that category! its all muscle memory haha:rolleyes:

don't feel bad i only know 3 PLLS
A - 3.4
H - 2.3
Z - 4.1

dude there is no way you dont know U-perm, especially since youve said yourself that youve spent a few months doing petrus, of which U-perm is a fundamental step.

 

[Swordsman Kirby]

lol i feel so horrible getting times like mine compared to you guys'.

but thats alright, i dont think i should try this with OH, i barely know my PLLs in that category! its all muscle memory haha:rolleyes:

don't feel bad i only know 3 PLLS
A - 3.4
H - 2.3
Z - 4.1

dude there is no way you dont know U-perm, especially since youve said yourself that youve spent a few months doing petrus, of which U-perm is a fundamental step.

How can you solve the permutation of edges with only Z and H, anyway?

 

[DavidWoner]

in the form of best, avg

A cw- 1.65, 1.83
A ccw- 1.58, 1.79
E- 3.83, 4.17 i dont know this one, i do T y2 T
F- 2.67,2.89
Ga- 2.24, 2.58
Gb- 1.97, 2.34
Gc- 1.86, 2.14
Gd- 2.11, 2.51
H- 1.48, 1.81
Ja- 1.34, 1.69
Jb- 1.47, 1.78
Na- 3.11, 3.59 dont know these either, use conjugated Js for both Ns
Nb- 3.23, 3.87
Ra- 1.88, 2.41
Rb- 2.23, 2.57
T- 1.38, 1.68
U cw- 1.12, 1.31
U ccw- 1.11, 1.34
V- 1.83, 2.20
Y- 1.79, 2.08
Z- 1.75, 1.95

total of all avgs: 48.53 seconds, im pretty sure i could sub-1 a time attack, this leaves about 11.5 secs for regrips in between perms.

 

[StachuK1992]

Stachu Korick's PLL's

Commented while recording:

U(a)-2.50
U(b)-2.52

consistent U's

A(a)-2.20
A(b)-2.22

wow...consistent A's

H-2.76...bad cubes...
Z-3.94

J(a)-3.15
J(b)-2.43

that's it for now

 

[Kenneth]

Some of you have trouble with G's, maybe my RUL's can help you:

Ga: R L U2 R' L' (y') R' U L' U2 R U' L

Gb: (y') R' U L' U2 R U' (y) R L U2 L' R'

Gc: L' R' U2 L R (y) L U' R U2 L' U R'

Gd: (y) L U' R U2 L' U R' (y') L' R' U2 L R

Wery nice for OH

 

[Mike Hughey]

Some of you have trouble with G's, maybe my RUL's can help you:

Ga: R L U2 R' L' (y') R' U L' U2 R U' L

Gb: (y') R' U L' U2 R U' (y) R L U2 L' R'

Gc: L' R' U2 L R (y) L U' R U2 L' U R'

Gd: (y) L U' R U2 L' U R' (y') L' R' U2 L R

Wery nice for OH

You know my really awful times? (G: 4.49, 4.25, 4.28, 4.33) They were using these algorithms. I always assumed they might be part of the problem. But like you, Kenneth, I find the R L and R' L' moves quicker than other things, which is why I've always used these and also the same H perm that you use.

 

[Carlos]

OH (Averages did some time ago, i'm better now (maybe))

Z: 3.54
U1: 2.28
U2: 2.06
A1: 3.05
A2: 3.03
R1: 4.11
R2: 3.87
T: 4.08
F: 4.35
V: 4.06
J1: 3.35
J2: 3.11
Y: 4.05
G1: 4.30
G2: 4.68
G3: 4.95
G4: 4.34
E: 4.09
N1: 3.98
N2: 4.22
H: 3.51

 

[Faz]

lol i feel so horrible getting times like mine compared to you guys'.

but thats alright, i dont think i should try this with OH, i barely know my PLLs in that category! its all muscle memory haha:rolleyes:

don't feel bad i only know 3 PLLS
A - 3.4
H - 2.3
Z - 4.1

wtf how do you know only 3 plls and have like twice as good an avg as me? lol im a failure!

he uses petrus or some other method though.

 

[PCwizCube]

lol i feel so horrible getting times like mine compared to you guys'.

but thats alright, i dont think i should try this with OH, i barely know my PLLs in that category! its all muscle memory haha:rolleyes:

don't feel bad i only know 3 PLLS
A - 3.4
H - 2.3
Z - 4.1

wtf how do you know only 3 plls and have like twice as good an avg as me? lol im a failure!

he uses petrus or some other method though.

He used to use Petrus.
Now he is below 18 seconds with Roux on average.

 

[Kenneth]

Not much use for PLL in Roux

 

[Hadley4000]

U: 2.31, 2.13
A: 2.42, 2.48
H: 1.47
Z: 3.13
T: 2.44

OK. I'm officially bored now.

Conclusion. I'm good at H perm.

 

[fanwuq]

I have a feeling that person meant U when saying A.

Also for me. New update:

T perm average is now 1.62.
That's .20 seconds faster than my best with A!
Type C is so much faster than Type A!
Type C is the best!

 

[waffle=ijm]

lol i feel so horrible getting times like mine compared to you guys'.

but thats alright, i dont think i should try this with OH, i barely know my PLLs in that category! its all muscle memory haha:rolleyes:

don't feel bad i only know 3 PLLS
A - 3.4
H - 2.3
Z - 4.1

dude there is no way you dont know U-perm, especially since youve said yourself that youve spent a few months doing petrus, of which U-perm is a fundamental step.

JUST TO CLEAR SOME THINGS UP!!!

like everyone is saying...I use roux and just do U perm intuitively I really don't know the algs for U perms. I just do them.

I did do months of fridrich. intuitive F2L and edge orient and then edge permute ( like in that little dan knight guide.) and then corner orient and permutation.

And I tried some roux BEFORE I USED PETRUS. (accidentally came upon the U perm here) I did some back and forth between Roux and fridrich (by this time I was trying all sorts of things OLL/PLL CLL/ELL, COLL) so I basically just ditched all those methods except for roux.

Then I tried Petrus for some block building practice, where I used the U perm I stumbled across along with my H and Z that I actually learned.

I didn't post my U perm since I technically never use it except intuitively as in roux solves.

 

[fanwuq]

PLL Single Best Average
Uccw 0.88 0.98
Ucw 0.97 1.11
Accw 1.13 1.27
J1 1.09 1.31
J2 1.33 1.45
H 1.2 1.51
Acw 1.44 1.57
T 1.31 1.63
Y 1.41 1.66
R1 1.42 1.72
G1 1.78 1.93
Z 1.47 1.94
G2 1.75 2.11
V 1.88 2.14
F 1.95 2.16
G2' 1.89 2.23
N1 1.94 2.26
R2 2.14 2.34
E 2.22 2.38
N2 2.22 2.39
G1' 2.13 2.42

Big improvement on U, J and Y

 

[Dene]

Done with wrists starting on timer, finishing with hands on timer.

2H
A: ccw: 2.58; cw:1.89
E: 2.94 (2.47 best, yikes! Better than expected)
U: ccw: 1.67; cw 1.86
H: 1.61
Z: 2.38
T: 1.70 (1.46 best)
J: 1.74; 2.37
R: 2.47; 2.62
F: 2.63 (This is not reflective of my "in-time" F-perms, which I'm sure I can easily sub2)
Y: 2.34
V: 2.17
N: 2.63; 3.11
G: 2.44; 3.11; 2.56; 3.00

 

[Inusagi]

Can somebody teach me how to do N perms in sub 2? I always get 2-2.5 sec.

 

[PCwizCube]

Can somebody teach me how to do N perms in sub 2? I always get 2-2.5 sec.

-Use a fast algorithm
-Try to regrip very little
-Use fast fingertricks
-Practice the algorithm

 

[Sa967St]

I just a few of each and kept track of the singles

Ua 1.21
Ub 1.26
H 1.55
Z 1.76
Aa 1.52
Ab 1.77
E 2.38
T 1.41
Ja 1.48
Jb 1.06
Ra 2.27
Rb 1.63
F 2.06
Y 1.94
V 2.39
Na 2.58
Nb 2.86
Ga 2.25
Gb 1.84
Gc 1.93
Gd 2.28

 

[fanwuq]

Can somebody teach me how to do N perms in sub 2? I always get 2-2.5 sec.

use macky's algs and/or study nakaji's execution video.

 

[Dene]

Finally finished. What can I say? I am really bad. I'm also way out of practise for PLL's. How do I manage to average sub17!? >.<