Post here if you recently purchased a Type D/YUGA

[fanwuq]

I got my white D's today. Without lube, they suck. With lube, it was super amazing at first, but there is the problem of the screws loosening. It takes only one solve to turn it from super tight to popping like crazy. I'm thinking about gorilla gluing the screws to the core, but I'm afraid that it would be permanently set to an uneven tension. Any suggestions?
It locks up a little, but has a nice floaty feeling. I can turn faster on the D than the A, but so far, I still like A better because it is more stable.
An annoying aspect is that the center cap falls off like every few turns. But that's easily fixable. If I glue the screws, I might as well as glue the caps too.

By the way, I bought the ones with stickers. The stickers are vinyl, bright, and in BOY color scheme. They are very nice.

 

[Athefre]

I know you mentioned the quality of the plastic in the "D vs A" comparison topic but could you describe it here? Does it seem like the same plastic used in a Rubik's brand cube?

 

[fanwuq]

I know you mentioned the quality of the plastic in the "D vs A" comparison topic but could you describe it here? Does it seem like the same plastic used in a Rubik's brand cube?

D is not like Rubik's brand. The plastic feels flimsy and it's just stiff without lube. With lube, it's hard and smooth, you can't really tell from type A just by looking at it. Feel is a bit more choppy, but not too different. It's like a cross between A and C actually.

 

[Athefre]

D is not like Rubik's brand. The plastic feels flimsy and it's just stiff without lube. With lube, it's hard and smooth, you can't really tell from type A just by looking at it. Feel is a bit more choppy, but not too different. It's like a cross between A and C actually.

Anyone here have an older Type D that matches this description?

 

[term]

I recently bought/broke in 1 each white/black a/d right around the time that I started seeing people posting about the plastic being not the usual quality, I can't speak for the old plastic, but I can say my white d w/ old a core is easily my best cube much better than my c4y a's and my puzzleproz a's. I believe part of the problem is that people were expecting too much, I haven't seen many people who complained say they were owners of both old/new type d's. Now my breaking in method for d's is a little different so I will document it here:

1. don't even turn cube just take it apart, sand imperfections, file springs, then clean cubies in soapy water.

2. put back together into either the black type d core or hopefully some other crappy core you have around that you don't care about, I noticed the type a-ii core works perfectly for this step, the d core is fine too though, as for unscrewing just use the superglue on the tips of the screws or into the core method, (remember to let dry) when you have a stable cube --> step 3

3. 250 (at least) solves, by this point cube will be mushy feeling with tons of powdery plastic, clean cubies in soapy water and put it back together again and another 250 (at least) solves

4. at this point I take stickers off and clean cubies until 0 sticker residue and then lube using the individual cubie lubing method with a light coat of crc, put back together and work in the lube after a few pll time attacks or such lube will start going away-ish you can tell at this point the amount of lube you will need to make the cube pretty awesome another light coat or a bit of a thicker coat, do this then some more pll time attacks until the cube feels _finished_.

5. at this point I change cores to the old type a, I super glue the tips of the screws before screwing in, try to get the tension even/perfect rather quickly without a lot of screwing/unscrewing do some pll time attacks to make sure everything is just right, apply smooth tiles, repeat for any other d with a core combos you're doing

disclaimer: I am not a fast cuber, pb's in the high 20's and avg mid 30's

cubes I own: c4y white/black type a/a-ii/d, puzzlepros white/black a
my top 4 cubes in quality order
white d w/ a core
white c4y a
white puzzlepros a
black d w/ a core

last tip: I've seen it argued both ways but in my humble opinion every single solve/minute of breaking in time you spend before lube will contribute to a better cube after lube, I'm sure there is a cut off point where you've done all you can pre-lube but that period is very long, there's my 2 cents, good luck!

small edit: in case it's not clear switching cores after the majority of your break-in and lube goes a long way towards avoiding the unscrewing problem, let some other core get the initial break-in stress

-Mike

 

[DAE_JA_VOO]

D is not like Rubik's brand. The plastic feels flimsy and it's just stiff without lube. With lube, it's hard and smooth, you can't really tell from type A just by looking at it. Feel is a bit more choppy, but not too different. It's like a cross between A and C actually.

Anyone here have an older Type D that matches this description?

Almost.

My "old" type D cubes were absolutely TERRIBLE straight out of the box. They were "choppy" and didn't turn well. So i sprayed in some lube (that's all), and changed the core to an old Type A core, and the cubes were incredible, especially the white one. The black one is nice, but nothing to write home about. The white one, however, is VERY fast, VERY smooth, and just plain awesome

It's popped maybe... i don't know, 5 times since i started using it a few months ago, so pops pretty much NEVER happen. And the cube also has that awesome "clackety" feel. I love it

 

[Bounb]

I have an older type (d) and I do not like it. Type (a) all the way for me. (d) is crap at cutting corners. I way prefer my tighter, harder to move type (a).

 

[fanwuq]

I have an older type (d) and I do not like it. Type (a) all the way for me. (d) is crap at cutting corners. I way prefer my tighter, harder to move type (a).

That is somewhat true. But replace with type C cubies and you will see a magical change. I'm serious, if there is such a thing as "the godly cube" (there isn't) but this is the closest it gets. With C cubies, it just exponentially increases in speed and corner cutting. I don't know why, but it is just crazy and amazing. Smooth, but not creamy. Floats on top and awesome for OH and 2H. It's great, don't waste your time cleaning or breaking in cubes. CRC it immediently, then it's just fine...

Regular type D is about the same except that it is slower, cuts corners worse, more choppy and bad for OH. Overall, type D (no mod) is still a great cube, slightly better than A for 2H, but much worse for OH. If you got it out of the box at a nice tension. I don't think it's actually any more or less popable than any other cube. I almost never pop on anything anyway.

I used to use only type A, but it's just too creamy. Advantage is nice silent sound and no lock up. I also like type C, real choppy, but doesn't really lock up. Disadvantage is that it's sound is too loud and ugly.

 

[MistArts]

I have an older type (d) and I do not like it. Type (a) all the way for me. (d) is crap at cutting corners. I way prefer my tighter, harder to move type (a).

That is very true. But replace with type C cubies and you will see a magical change. I'm serious, if there is such a thing as "the godly cube" (there isn't) but this is the closest it gets. With C cubies, it just exponentially increases in speed and corner cutting. I don't know why, but it is just crazy and amazing.

I used to use only type A, but it's just too creamy. Advantage is nice silent sound. I also like type C, real choppy, but doesn't really lock up. Disadvantage is that it's sound is too loud and ugly.

Do you use Type A screws?

 

[fanwuq]

I have an older type (d) and I do not like it. Type (a) all the way for me. (d) is crap at cutting corners. I way prefer my tighter, harder to move type (a).

That is very true. But replace with type C cubies and you will see a magical change. I'm serious, if there is such a thing as "the godly cube" (there isn't) but this is the closest it gets. With C cubies, it just exponentially increases in speed and corner cutting. I don't know why, but it is just crazy and amazing.

I used to use only type A, but it's just too creamy. Advantage is nice silent sound. I also like type C, real choppy, but doesn't really lock up. Disadvantage is that it's sound is too loud and ugly.

Do you use Type A screws?

Type A core (but it actually doesn't matter)
D center pieces (important only because the springs need to be able to fit in there.)
D screws (perhaps important)
D springs (very important)
C cubies (very important) Perhaps other type cubies are nice too, but just switch the cubies.
Some D some C caps (doesn't matter as long as it stays on.)

 

[MistArts]

I have an older type (d) and I do not like it. Type (a) all the way for me. (d) is crap at cutting corners. I way prefer my tighter, harder to move type (a).

That is very true. But replace with type C cubies and you will see a magical change. I'm serious, if there is such a thing as "the godly cube" (there isn't) but this is the closest it gets. With C cubies, it just exponentially increases in speed and corner cutting. I don't know why, but it is just crazy and amazing.

I used to use only type A, but it's just too creamy. Advantage is nice silent sound. I also like type C, real choppy, but doesn't really lock up. Disadvantage is that it's sound is too loud and ugly.

Do you use Type A screws?

Type A core (but it actually doesn't matter)
D center pieces (doesn't matter)
D screws (perhaps important)
D springs (very important)
C cubies (very important) Perhaps other type cubies are nice too, but just switch the cubies.
Some D some C caps (doesn't matter as long as it stays on.)

D spring doesn't fit into A center pieces so center pieces do matter.

 

[fanwuq]

D spring doesn't fit into A center pieces so center pieces do matter.

Ah... ok. But my point is that I think the reason that type D is nice is because it has thick springs. The outward appearance of the centers are the same, didn't realize that internal width is a bit different. So I suppose it does matter then.

 

[BinomDreher]

Does it even make a difference if you use 1 or 2 washers for each spring, and if yes, which size they have? (probably a question i asked myself before also for the "standard" D cube, cause it only has one washer but this large spring compared to "A")

 

[MasakitChan]

Huh? I thougth the C4Y Type D was good?

If not, then which one is?

C4Y orders from yjtoy.com, as far as I know.

 

[Neroflux]

it's .net, not .com. yjtoy.com sells some other toys like world of warcraft stuff.

 

[Littlegupper]

I have just ordered my first DIY cubes, a old type A and a type D. Can you put the old type A core in the type D cube without any problems? And can you place the cores back without problems? Doesn't loose it the elasticity?

 

[PCwizCube]

I have just ordered my first DIY cubes, a old type A and a type D. Can you put the old type A core in the type D cube without any problems? And can you place the cores back without problems? Doesn't loose it the elasticity?

Yes you can switch the cores back and forth without problems. For the elasticity, if you re-adjust the screws 10+ times the core will be broken. I had to learn that the hard way!

For elasticity problems look at these two threads.
http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6001&highlight=Type+D
http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5789

 

[Vulosity]

Here are new type d's and a lubing expirement with them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtOHpSyfjd8

 

[Littlegupper]

Ok, thanks for your quick reaction and help!
Im looking forward to get my new cubes !

 

[DAE_JA_VOO]

My first Type D cubes were good, especially the white one. So last night i ordered another 7. They were shipped today, so i should get them in a week or two. I'll let you guys know how they are. Not all of them are for me, but i'll still give them all a test run.

Okay, so my Type Ds arrived this morning. Out of the box, they're absolutely crap, but then again, my "old" white type D was also pretty crap out the box.

I wouldn't even consider using a Type D as a main cube if i couldn't do the A core mod on it.

Anyway, there are definitely some differences between these cubes and my original Type D cubes.

The first difference i noticed was the core. This is the core on the "new" Type D cubes:

The core on the "old" Type D cubes was a more "transparent" sort of core. Here's the "old" Type D core:

The second thing i noticed what the screws. Here are the screws of the "old" Type D cubes:

And the "new" Type D cubes:

I doubt the screws will make much difference though. The only real difference in the screws is the head. Everything else seems to be the same, including the springs.

Anyway, i pulled one of the cubes apart and replaced the core with an old Type A core. I then lubed the cube and worked the lube in for a while. After some fine tuning of the tension, the cube is amazing. Very similar to my "old" Type D cube. My "old" one is certainly better, but it's broken in. I can honestly see this "new" Type D cube being as nice as my old one with some more breaking in.

Granted, this new Type D i tested has the old screw set (i found one in my group of 7 that had the old screw set), but as i said, i highly doubt that the screws will make a difference as they're virtually the same.

So, bottom line - MY specific batch of so-called "new" Type D cubes is pretty much identical to the "old" cubes. Out the box, both the old and new cubes were useless. But with a core mod and some lube, they both turned out amazing.

My original white Type D is nothing short of heavenly.