Awesome BLD scramble + UWR

[Mike Hughey]

Try out this scramble:
U L2 F2 R' F R2 U' R' U B R' B L2 F' L2 U' F2 R' F2 D B2 L2 F2 R D' B2

Wow - I got 1:41.40. Best time I've ever gotten, lucky or unlucky. But with 5 pieces already solved (4 edges plus 1 corner), it's clearly a very lucky scramble.

Not according to speedcubing.com

Uh, yeah it is. But for a different reason: only 2 corners misoriented.

For blindfold solving a lucky case is defined by:
1) more than 5 corners are correctly oriented...

A silly reason when you consider 5 pieces are solved, but there you go. Still lucky.

 

[MistArts]

Try out this scramble:
U L2 F2 R' F R2 U' R' U B R' B L2 F' L2 U' F2 R' F2 D B2 L2 F2 R D' B2

Wow - I got 1:41.40. Best time I've ever gotten, lucky or unlucky. But with 5 pieces already solved (4 edges plus 1 corner), it's clearly a very lucky scramble.

Not according to speedcubing.com

Uh, yeah it is. But for a different reason: only 2 corners misoriented.

For blindfold solving a lucky case is defined by:
1) more than 5 corners are correctly oriented...

A silly reason when you consider 5 pieces are solved, but there you go. Still lucky.

But you use freestyle corners, right? So it doesn't matter, I think.

 

[McWizzle94]

Try out this scramble:
U L2 F2 R' F R2 U' R' U B R' B L2 F' L2 U' F2 R' F2 D B2 L2 F2 R D' B2

Wow - I got 1:41.40. Best time I've ever gotten, lucky or unlucky. But with 5 pieces already solved (4 edges plus 1 corner), it's clearly a very lucky scramble.

Not according to speedcubing.com

Uh, yeah it is. But for a different reason: only 2 corners misoriented.

For blindfold solving a lucky case is defined by:
1) more than 5 corners are correctly oriented...

A silly reason when you consider 5 pieces are solved, but there you go. Still lucky.

But you use freestyle corners, right? So it doesn't matter, I think.

This is why we really need to come up with a way to define lucky/nonlucky that doesn't apply to a specific method.

 

[Lucas Garron]

Try out this scramble:
U L2 F2 R' F R2 U' R' U B R' B L2 F' L2 U' F2 R' F2 D B2 L2 F2 R D' B2

Wow - I got 1:41.40. Best time I've ever gotten, lucky or unlucky. But with 5 pieces already solved (4 edges plus 1 corner), it's clearly a very lucky scramble.

Not according to speedcubing.com

Uh, yeah it is. But for a different reason: only 2 corners misoriented.

For blindfold solving a lucky case is defined by:
1) more than 5 corners are correctly oriented...

A silly reason when you consider 5 pieces are solved, but there you go. Still lucky.

But you use freestyle corners, right? So it doesn't matter, I think.

This is why we really need to come up with a way to define lucky/nonlucky that doesn't apply to a specific method.

No.
This is why we can't come up with a way to define lucky/nonlucky that doesn't apply to a specific method. The best ways would help, but not be nearly as effective as silly to impose.

Also, MistArts, what does freestyling corners have to do with it?

 

[Kenneth]

I Like those quotes, it's almost arty

(yet another completly useless post =)

 

[Mike Hughey]

This is why we can't come up with a way to define lucky/nonlucky that doesn't apply to a specific method. The best ways would help, but not be nearly as effective as silly to impose.

Also, MistArts, what does freestyling corners have to do with it?

This is true. There's no reasonable way to define lucky/nonlucky that doesn't apply to a specific method. However, it is fairly easy to identify that some scrambles are blatantly lucky. For instance, a solved cube is clearly lucky.

For this particular scramble, it's safe to say that it meets the criteria for lucky at least two ways:
1. It clearly IS lucky according to the definition on speedcubing.com. The corner orientation alone does it. The definition there is nonambiguous; it's clearly lucky according to that definition.
2. It meets the typical "greater than 20% solved" criterion that most M2 solvers use. 5 pieces is particularly lucky - 4 pieces is the typical lucky solve by this criterion.

And MistArts, no, I don't freestyle corners. (My corners are pure Macky-style 3OP.) I want to, but I'm not good enough to do it at reasonable speed yet. (Well, actually, I'd like to learn BH, but I'm not sure I'll ever have the patience for it.)

 

[MistArts]

Try out this scramble:
U L2 F2 R' F R2 U' R' U B R' B L2 F' L2 U' F2 R' F2 D B2 L2 F2 R D' B2

Wow - I got 1:41.40. Best time I've ever gotten, lucky or unlucky. But with 5 pieces already solved (4 edges plus 1 corner), it's clearly a very lucky scramble.

Not according to speedcubing.com

Uh, yeah it is. But for a different reason: only 2 corners misoriented.

For blindfold solving a lucky case is defined by:
1) more than 5 corners are correctly oriented...

A silly reason when you consider 5 pieces are solved, but there you go. Still lucky.

But you use freestyle corners, right? So it doesn't matter, I think.

This is why we really need to come up with a way to define lucky/nonlucky that doesn't apply to a specific method.

No.
This is why we can't come up with a way to define lucky/nonlucky that doesn't apply to a specific method. The best ways would help, but not be nearly as effective as silly to impose.

Also, MistArts, what does freestyling corners have to do with it?

Freestyling doesn't need to orient first. And orientation is different if te cube is oriented differntly. So how can we know what orientation is?

 

[Mike Hughey]

Freestyling doesn't need to orient first. And orientation is different if te cube is oriented differntly. So how can we know what orientation is?

Oh, I guess that's true. He might have been holding the cube so that orientation was not so lucky. So according to speedcubing.com rules, it might have been non-lucky for him, but lucky for me. I forgot about that. But it was lucky for me according to speedcubing.com rules.

 

[Lucas Garron]

Freestyling doesn't need to orient first. And orientation is different if te cube is oriented differntly. So how can we know what orientation is?

Oh, I guess that's true. He might have been holding the cube so that orientation was not so lucky. So according to speedcubing.com rules, it might have been non-lucky for him, but lucky for me. I forgot about that. But it was lucky for me according to speedcubing.com rules.

The 5 pieces were permuted and oriented...

 

[Mike Hughey]

Freestyling doesn't need to orient first. And orientation is different if te cube is oriented differntly. So how can we know what orientation is?

Oh, I guess that's true. He might have been holding the cube so that orientation was not so lucky. So according to speedcubing.com rules, it might have been non-lucky for him, but lucky for me. I forgot about that. But it was lucky for me according to speedcubing.com rules.

The 5 pieces were permuted and oriented...

Yeah, but the reason I thought it was lucky by speedcubing.com rules was because only 2 corners overall were misoriented (for me). The speedcubing.com rules don't say anything about pieces being both permuted and oriented - permutation and orientation there are treated independently. The 5 pieces permuted and oriented part has no bearing. If it had been 5 edges, then the 5 edges would have been too many edges properly permuted, but you're allowed to have 4 edges properly permuted, and this was 4 edges and 1 corner.

 

[Ville Seppänen]

What about EO? How often do people who use direct solving methods (orientation+permutation at the same time) check how many edges were oriented? Almost never, it doesn't have a big difference to them. How often do people who direct solve corners check CO? Almost never, it doesn't really matter. I never look how many corners need to be oriented and same goes for edges. CO doesn't really affect my solving, so having a lucky CO shouldn't make my solve lucky.
Just my thoughts.

 

[Hadley4000]

I got 22.17 speed on that scramble. Easy X-Cross, triple sexy move and nice A perm

 

[DennisStrehlau]

mhhh...not that nice.
1:04.17 min...

Greetings...Dennis