US Nationals 2013 [Cancelled]

[HelpCube]

If we could find an outdoor spot in Florida..
That would be amazing.

What if it rains? But yes Florida would be epic.

 

[Cheese11]

What if it rains? But yes Florida would be epic.

Or if it's simply breezy. We should go to Alaska! Jkjk

 

[AustinReed]

We've already had it in Florida. It was also outside. :3

 

[TheMachanga]

This might sound weird, but why don't we just keep recycling different venues? By that I mean just make it the same 4 or 5 cities that hold it. We already know the cost, size, and quality of the previous venues, why not just use them again?

We have, Boston, Berkley, Ohio, and Las Vegas. So, Boston for all the NE guys, Ohio for Midwest, Las Vegas for....desert people, and Berkley for the west cubers. However, the west is big, so that can be split into LA and Seattle or something. I mean, the Olympics use the same cities and venues sometimes, just look at London.

 

[AustinReed]

^ You forgot SE.

The reason I assume they choose different locations is so they could let people from more remote areas (such as the Dakotas, Montana, Washington, etc.) To have a chance. They'll have to wait, but there will be one eventually.

Example, Vegas isn't too populated cuber-wise. I think it's an excellent location.

 

[Bryan]

I mean, the Olympics use the same cities and venues sometimes, just look at London.

If cubing required a few billion in infrastructure, we'd probably re-use venues more often too. One thing you need to remember about US Nationals is that it's an extremely large draw of International competitors (not just Canada). Moving it around gives them a chance to see different places in the US.

 

[Tyson]

If cubing required a few billion in infrastructure, we'd probably re-use venues more often too. One thing you need to remember about US Nationals is that it's an extremely large draw of International competitors (not just Canada). Moving it around gives them a chance to see different places in the US.

Our negotiations to redo this event at the Riviera fell through :-( trying to come up with another solution now.

 

[MirzaCubing]

Hmmm, well I've had two locations in mind for a while now;

> Washington D.C- Museum of Natural History (or any other fun venues, this is the first place that came to mind)
> Pros=
>Very large venue, I've seen some of the halls, trust me, you're voice will echo.
>Many hotels nearby
>Lots of airports (3, that I know of)
>States such as VA, NC, SC, WV, etc. will have a chance at competing since not many competitions are held there
>Has something for families to do. Las Vegas, and I've been to Las Vegas, was a good choice because it provides some sort of additional recreation outside of cubing, and allows families to pass the time in a fun way.
>Cons=
>DC is somewhat compact, a bit small but is most certainly doable
>Hotels are a bit expensive, as with food arrangements

2nd Choice: Los Angeles

I was only in LA for a few days, but I could name a few locations that would interest cubers:
>LA Science Museum (forgot exact name, I apologize)
>Staples Center
>Convention Center
>Amusement Parks
>UCLA/Caltech, which is in nearby Pasadena

 

[Tyson]

Hmmm, well I've had two locations in mind for a while now;

> Washington D.C- Museum of Natural History (or any other fun venues, this is the first place that came to mind)
> Pros=
>Very large venue, I've seen some of the halls, trust me, you're voice will echo.
>Many hotels nearby
>Lots of airports (3, that I know of)
>States such as VA, NC, SC, WV, etc. will have a chance at competing since not many competitions are held there
>Has something for families to do. Las Vegas, and I've been to Las Vegas, was a good choice because it provides some sort of additional recreation outside of cubing, and allows families to pass the time in a fun way.
>Cons=
>DC is somewhat compact, a bit small but is most certainly doable
>Hotels are a bit expensive, as with food arrangements

2nd Choice: Los Angeles

I was only in LA for a few days, but I could name a few locations that would interest cubers:
>LA Science Museum (forgot exact name, I apologize)
>Staples Center
>Convention Center
>Amusement Parks
>UCLA/Caltech, which is in nearby Pasadena

Do you have quotes on any of these? You've listed a bunch of suggestions, but one of these (Staples Center) I would imagine would easily cost $50,000 for the venue cost. Which leads me to believe that you haven't ballparked the cost of these venues. Can you get me a ballpark of how much each one would cost?

Caltech is too small to hold such an event. Have you been to Caltech and have you been to previous nationals?

 

[IMSLOW1097]

Hi, Tyson,
is there any way that I could help out with nationals 2013? I am hosting my first competition in a few months (New Albany 2012) and am looking into helping out with nationals if it ends up on the east coast. summer 2013 will be the summer before my senior year.
Thanks,
Aaron
P.S. has anyone thought about New york venues?
P.S.

 

[Cheese11]

Hi, Tyson,
is there any way that I could help out with nationals 2013? I am hosting my first competition in a few months (New Albany 2012) and am looking into helping out with nationals if it ends up on the east coast. summer 2013 will be the summer before my senior year.
Thanks,
Aaron
P.S. has anyone thought about New york venues?
P.S.

Isn't York quite expensive?

 

[Ickathu]

Hmmm, well I've had two locations in mind for a while now;

> Washington D.C- Museum of Natural History (or any other fun venues, this is the first place that came to mind)
> Pros=
>Very large venue, I've seen some of the halls, trust me, you're voice will echo.
>Many hotels nearby
>Lots of airports (3, that I know of)
>States such as VA, NC, SC, WV, etc. will have a chance at competing since not many competitions are held there
>Has something for families to do. Las Vegas, and I've been to Las Vegas, was a good choice because it provides some sort of additional recreation outside of cubing, and allows families to pass the time in a fun way.
>Cons=
>DC is somewhat compact, a bit small but is most certainly doable
>Hotels are a bit expensive, as with food arrangements

2nd Choice: Los Angeles

I was only in LA for a few days, but I could name a few locations that would interest cubers:
>LA Science Museum (forgot exact name, I apologize)
>Staples Center
>Convention Center
>Amusement Parks
>UCLA/Caltech, which is in nearby Pasadena

Genius. DC has tons of large halls and building we could use, and one of the Smithsonians (free admission) would be good because non-cubing relatives (siblings, parents, etc) would have something to do.
But can you book one of the smithsonian buildings?

 

[Bob]

Genius. DC has tons of large halls and building we could use, and one of the Smithsonians (free admission) would be good because non-cubing relatives (siblings, parents, etc) would have something to do.
But can you book one of the smithsonian buildings?

When I contacted them a long time ago (like 2006-2008) they did not allow such events. I haven't asked them since.

 

[MirzaCubing]

Do you have quotes on any of these? You've listed a bunch of suggestions, but one of these (Staples Center) I would imagine would easily cost $50,000 for the venue cost. Which leads me to believe that you haven't ballparked the cost of these venues. Can you get me a ballpark of how much each one would cost?


Caltech is too small to hold such an event. Have you been to Caltech and have you been to previous nationals?

I figured Staples Center would be out of this world :/
I can contact the museum over the weekend, and I'll look into some additional venues in DC.

I've been to Caltech, but I never really went into many of the rooms (I visited the campus for about 30 minutes, sorry for not knowing much)

and, unfortunately I have not been to nats before I was planning to go this year (my family loves vegas) but I chose not to go, I don't want to pay a ton and not get very far in the competition.

 

[Vincents]

Genius. DC has tons of large halls and building we could use, and one of the Smithsonians (free admission) would be good because non-cubing relatives (siblings, parents, etc) would have something to do.
But can you book one of the smithsonian buildings?

I spoke with one of the curators of one of the museums last week about something else entirely, but it still appears that they do not hold these sorts of events.

I figured Staples Center would be out of this world :/
I can contact the museum over the weekend, and I'll look into some additional venues in DC.

I've been to Caltech, but I never really went into many of the rooms (I visited the campus for about 30 minutes, sorry for not knowing much)

and, unfortunately I have not been to nats before I was planning to go this year (my family loves vegas) but I chose not to go, I don't want to pay a ton and not get very far in the competition.

Tyson should know the pros and cons of hosting a competition at Caltech, seeing as how he went there for college.

 

[Ickathu]

When I contacted them a long time ago (like 2006-2008) they did not allow such events. I haven't asked them since.

I spoke with one of the curators of one of the museums last week about something else entirely, but it still appears that they do not hold these sorts of events.

Bummer...

 

[Tyson]

Hi, Tyson,
is there any way that I could help out with nationals 2013? I am hosting my first competition in a few months (New Albany 2012) and am looking into helping out with nationals if it ends up on the east coast. summer 2013 will be the summer before my senior year.
Thanks,
Aaron
P.S. has anyone thought about New york venues?
P.S.

Aaron,

I don't have much visibility into your undoubtedly very hard work and dedication. Best is for you to work with Bob and Tim, and surface your interest in helping out to them. I can't really help, as I don't interact with east coast cubers that much these days.

With regard to New York venues, there are two main issues: venue cost, travel cost. Venue cost, in that I think it's really hard to find something reasonably priced. If you know of one, let me know. But really, I think the problem will be hotel. Every damn hotel in New York City is something like $400 a night. It's pretty absurd there.

For example, look at the cost of hotel at this year's nationals in Vegas. $50 a night! (Probably $60 when all is said and done with taxes)... but it's cheaper than Ohio. So that's something to strongly consider, at $300 a night, or even at $200 a night for the hotel, hotel is going to cost more than the plane ticket.

But again, I'd love to have you help out, but I don't have much visibility into your work so please work with Bob and Tim to accomplish what you want.

 

[a small kitten]

We aren't having a competition in one single hotel room bro. You have to be consistent with the numbers you compare. Hotel rooms in Vegas are ~$60. Hotel rooms in New York City are in the hundreds. Tyson said nothing about how much the venue costs. However, my experience living in NYC tells me that it will be wallet murder.

 

[drewsopchak]

We aren't having a competition in one single hotel room bro. You have to be consistent with the numbers you compare. Hotel rooms in Vegas are ~$60. Hotel rooms in New York City are in the hundreds. Tyson said nothing about how much the venue costs. However, my experience living in NYC tells me that it will be wallet murder.

I took Tyson's statement out of context. Mea Culpa. However, I'm fairly certain that the small fortune of registration fees are more than enough to cover a New York Venue.

 

[shelley]

You would be wrong about that.