US Nationals 2012 (Las Vegas)

[Mike Hughey]

If this is any consolation, you can't win Nationals if you are an international competitor. Thus, if you go for free you can't win first place. Good example is that Breandan Vallance actually had the faster average at 2011 Nationals but Dan Cohen won 1st place because Breandan is from the UK.

Correction: Breandan was first place. Dan was National Champion. An international competitor can't be National Champion, but can win first place.

(I was national champion at all four blindfolded events, but I only won one of them. )

 

[Cheese11]

Correction: Breandan was first place. Dan was National Champion. An international competitor can't be National Champion, but can win first place.

(I was national champion at all four blindfolded events, but I only won one of them. )

I would feel bad if that happened to me

 

[FatBoyXPC]

I totally misunderstood how that happened Mike, thanks

 

[samchoochiu]

do you know the cost of flying to the US from another country

yes I do, I've flown to 6 continents in my life. But that doesn't explain why registration is free for international competitors. Why do we need international competitors? Why are we giving the incentive for them to come when they cannot be crowned as champion either? I am not against them coming but I am just curious of the benefits of international competitors coming to Nats. Like I said it only makes the registration fee higher for the national competitors.

 

[hyunchoi98]

If i went (i'm won't), i would be representing Korea, since i have a Korean passport (and i represented Korea at Newark H2H)
But i also wouldn't pay registration fees? Cool!
(I live in New Jersey)

 

[fastcubesolver]

I just registered and booked my flight. I can't wait for this comp!

 

[Kian]

If i went (i'm won't), i would be representing Korea, since i have a Korean passport (and i represented Korea at Newark H2H)
But i also wouldn't pay registration fees? Cool!
(I live in New Jersey)

Yes, you would have to pay registration fees. The registration fee break is for people traveling from outside of North America. We do that because of the costs involved in that endeavor and our desire to be a competition that is attractive to foreign competitors.

 

[hcfong]

OK, so it's residency rather than nationality that determines ones fee status? So, someone like Lucas Garron has to pay because he lives in the USA, even though he's German, but someone like Chris Krueger goes for free, because he lives in China, even though he is a US citizen?

 

[Mike Hughey]

Yes, you would have to pay registration fees. The registration fee break is for people traveling from outside of North America. We do that because of the costs involved in that endeavor and our desire to be a competition that is attractive to foreign competitors.

I think it's important to point out that the international flavor of US Nationals is part of its appeal. It's nice that so many competitors from outside the USA come to US Nationals. At least, I think so, and I think a number of other people agree. It's part of the attraction of the competition.

 

[iEnjoyCubing]

Quick question: If I register and pay in full, but later decide (still before the competition begins) that I want to add another event to my registration, can I do so? Will I have to contact the organizers to pay the extra amount, or is that all handled on the site?

 

[Kirjava]

But that doesn't explain why registration is free for international competitors.

Actually, that is the exact reason why.

 

[Kian]

Quick question: If I register and pay in full, but later decide (still before the competition begins) that I want to add another event to my registration, can I do so? Will I have to contact the organizers to pay the extra amount, or is that all handled on the site?

Yes, you may add events. If you register with a CubingUSA id, you should be able to edit your events at a later date. If that is the case, do so as early as possible because the cost of your new event will be determined by the date on which it is added. You can pay the additional fee via PayPal again. If you have any problems, please use the contact info to send us an email.

EDIT: I see that you attempted to register without paying. Be aware that your registration is not complete (and the fees are not set) until you pay for your registration.

 

[iEnjoyCubing]

Yes, you may add events. If you register with a CubingUSA id, you should be able to edit your events at a later date. If that is the case, do so as early as possible because the cost of your new event will be determined by the date on which it is added. You can pay the additional fee via PayPal again. If you have any problems, please use the contact info to send us an email.

EDIT: I see that you attempted to register without paying. Be aware that your registration is not complete (and the fees are not set) until you pay for your registration.

Yeah, I know. That was ~1.5 months ago when I didn't even know that you paid in advance (at all the comps I've been to you pay at the door). I found that out and have waited until now to make sure that I can go, and asked to make sure I could add events.

 

[kirtpro]

it only makes the registration fee higher for the national competitors.

Um... I'm pretty sure the registration cost is kept the same regardless of international competitors going or not going

I've flown to 6 continents in my life.

Isn't that the same as saying "I have lots of money"
i.e. don't care bout the price of rego
meaning, you have no reason to complain =='

 

[Sa967St]

Why are international competitors free? Just so that national competitors can pay more.

You don't know that.

yes I do, I've flown to 6 continents in my life. But that doesn't explain why registration is free for international competitors. Why do we need international competitors? Why are we giving the incentive for them to come when they cannot be crowned as champion either? I am not against them coming but I am just curious of the benefits of international competitors coming to Nats. Like I said it only makes the registration fee higher for the national competitors.

Because the organization team is nice? Why is this something you're questioning?

 

[Kian]

Because the organization team is nice?

Well let's not go that far.

 

[Cheese11]

yes I do, I've flown to 6 continents in my life. But that doesn't explain why registration is free for international competitors. Why do we need international competitors? Why are we giving the incentive for them to come when they cannot be crowned as champion either? I am not against them coming but I am just curious of the benefits of international competitors coming to Nats. Like I said it only makes the registration fee higher for the national competitors.

So are you saying I can't go to a comp in England?

 

[Mikel]

I have a quick question. Would I as a competitor be able to judge events if I am not competing at Nationals, or is there a set staff of judges? I probably won't make it into higher rounds, and I was wondering If I could be able to help out if I went.

 

[Kian]

I have a quick question. Would I as a competitor be able to judge events if I am not competing at Nationals, or is there a set staff of judges? I probably won't make it into higher rounds, and I was wondering If I could be able to help out if I went.

There is a set staff of judges but if we have any needs I will keep you in mind. We appreciate all the people willing to help but at this point we have a very regimented judging schedule and should be pretty well staffed. Our ability to schedule and have very competent judges makes nationals such a well run event every year.

 

[samchoochiu]

Um... I'm pretty sure the registration cost is kept the same regardless of international competitors going or not going



Isn't that the same as saying "I have lots of money"
i.e. don't care bout the price of rego
meaning, you have no reason to complain =='

actually its a good reason to complain (which I am not, nobody could really answer my question and I wanted a logical answer not just "the organization team is nice")
It's just like saying you would pay 15 dollars for a cube than 10 dollars for the same cube when you have x amount of money. Also why would the reg. price stay the same? More competitors means more money needed.

btw not rich, in fact probably the opposite I moved a lot since we weren't settled and I went to Africa for global service