Zarxrax
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Ok, so here we go back to the question, why does a bench builder only get paid once, while a game creator is supposed to get paid by everyone who plays?
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Rpotts
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A bench builder would get paid for each bench, same as what a game developer should.
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Maybe you did pay for the newly installed bench with your taxes.
applemobile
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What's the difference between 'pirating' a film from the Internet, and borrowing a DVD from a friend?
Specs112
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The internet scares corporations who don't really understand it because they were created before it and are still trying to figure out what it does to their business.
Other than that, no difference.
Zarxrax
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A rather vague statement. What do you mean by "a bench builder would get paid for each bench"?
If he builds 100 benches, but no one wants them, should he get paid? Maybe you mean "he should be paid by everyone who wants to purchase a bench". It seems like you don't want to go with "he should get paid by everyone who uses the bench".
Ok, so we are going with "he should get paid by everyone who wants to purchase a bench". Is that ok?
Ok now lets apply it to a video game. "the programmer should get paid by everyone who decides to purchase the game".
So... In this scenario, a person may use something without choosing to purchase it. And thus, where is the problem with piracy?
applemobile
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Can I get free trial on this bench first?
RyanO
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I see no reason that downloading something from the internet (for personal use) is any different than recording a television program with your DVR/VCR. It should be protected as such. Uploading something on the internet is a trickier subject, as you aren't limiting usage to personal use.
Rpotts
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Paid for each bench he was contracted to build/install. I'm thinking of concrete benches in parks/playgrounds.
No.
Well, yes, I suppose that's fine.
Still fine.
In any scenario you can use something without choosing to purchase it. It's called theft.
Meep
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He doesn't get paid once, he gets paid per bench. The only thing is it takes much more effort to make a copy of the first bench than to make a copy of a game/song. That, and the tools/resources for duplicating the digital information is more readily available (and practical) to the public.
I do pirate things, and I do because there're way too many occurrences where I feel I'm not getting my money's worth. In the odd occasion that for example, I play a game for much more than $15 worth (to me), I'd go out and buy it -after- knowing it's worth it.
LarsN
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It seems to me that since we are talking about a digital product and not some physical thing, people doesn't relate to it in the same way.
How many of you would go into a shop, pull down several CD's, walk out of the shop without paying and not feel like you've done something wrong?
How many of you would go into a shop, pull down several CD's, walk out of the shop without paying and not feel like you've done something wrong?
applemobile
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Terrible analagy, a cd is a physical thing. How about if you went into a shop, saw a painting for sale, liked it but couldn't afford it. If you took a photo of it on your phone and printed it out when you got home to stick on your wall, would you feel like you had stolen it?
LarsN
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You do know that you can buy cheap posters of expensive paintings? That's because they lose the quality of the painting.
You can also record songs from concerts on your phone. It's perfectly legal.
You're just adding to my point. It shouldn't be accepted the steal the software, when you would never steal the hardware.
You can also record songs from concerts on your phone. It's perfectly legal.
You're just adding to my point. It shouldn't be accepted the steal the software, when you would never steal the hardware.
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applemobile
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I don't want to buy a cheap copy. What if I make a very high quality scan and print it out on a very high quality printer? So anyway, are you saying I shoul be able to buy a cheap copy of a DVD because it's poorer quality?
LarsN
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If you want quality you should pay for it.
A lot products are sold with both a high quality and a cheaper low quality version. Mobile phones, televisions, headphones, you name it. For a better quality movie, you can buy blue-ray.
I know that wether or not something is expensive is a matter of opinion, but I live in a country with extreme taxes and whatnot added to the price, and I don't find movies or music to be expensive. I find games to be expensive, but if you choose wisely you get many hours of fun.
A lot products are sold with both a high quality and a cheaper low quality version. Mobile phones, televisions, headphones, you name it. For a better quality movie, you can buy blue-ray.
I know that wether or not something is expensive is a matter of opinion, but I live in a country with extreme taxes and whatnot added to the price, and I don't find movies or music to be expensive. I find games to be expensive, but if you choose wisely you get many hours of fun.
Tim Major
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Whilst this isn't to justify piracy, I often download something illegally, if I like it/use it often, I buy it. EG: Terraria. DL'd it, liked it, bought it, got bored of it 
Kirjava
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What happens when the highest quality version is the pirated one?
LarsN
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Kirjava
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Lack of DRM.
LarsN
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I'm not an expert on DRM, but as I understand it some platforms can't play songs with DRM? Or is it that when you buy a song for one platform and the song is DRM protectet, then you cannot play the song on other devices?
If that is the case, then it's a matter of accessibility instead of pricing. In those cases I'm a bit more split about pirating. For instance I find that Onlive is a really great service, but it's not open in my country. I had to make some detours to get to their service, but I do pay for it though.
What I don't like about pirating is the part where people just want to have a whole lot of things for free. In my opinion you have to give something to get something.
If that is the case, then it's a matter of accessibility instead of pricing. In those cases I'm a bit more split about pirating. For instance I find that Onlive is a really great service, but it's not open in my country. I had to make some detours to get to their service, but I do pay for it though.
What I don't like about pirating is the part where people just want to have a whole lot of things for free. In my opinion you have to give something to get something.
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