How to lessen moves?
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PandaCuber
Veteran
How about an example solve?
Achifaifa
Regular
I think you should learn F2L, PLL and OLL before worrying about the move count.
freshcuber
Veteran
Use a 4LLL or if you already do that then switch to a 3LLL or 2LLL. Make sure your cross is 8 moves or less and find algs for F2L cases that are high move count or take a long time to execute. If you don't know F2L then learn it.
Forgot to mention, I know f2l and most of 2 look oll. My ill is still 4l.
EDIT: Im video taping an example solve now.
Achifaifa
Regular
Then learn PLL first. You will reduce your times quite a bit, and your averages will be more consistent.
About the move count, just solve slowly and note in what cases you spend most of your time. And then, get better at it or just learn an alg for that case.
freshcuber
Veteran
At 43 seconds just practicing and solving will bring down your times. Sub-30 is very easy to attain
Ive seen people say that cfop should take like 60 moves though... so won't reducing my moves help a lot?
waffle=ijm
Waffo
learn more, come back later. if you're using 4 look last layer then no **** you'll be using more moves than regular OLL/PLL. IF you make first and second layer separate then no ****, you'll be using more moves than traditional F2L
aaronb
Veteran
Well if you go from 4-look PLL, and go to 1-look PLL, you move count will pretty much automatically by about 20 moves. Then just work on/look up difficult F2L cases. Other than that, pretty much just practice will help your times/move count.
For the second time, Im using intuitive f2l.
anyway, just did f2l and it was 53 moves. Is this a lot?
Rpotts
Veteran
Doesn't really matter how fast he's turning, he should probably aim for ~35-40 moves for F2L (including cross, of course.)
Oh, INCLUDING cross, Im at about 63 moves.
Specs112
Veteran
10 move cross, then? Any cross can be made in 8 or fewer moves, and usually 6. You're going to want to practice that as well.
Cubenovice
Forever Slow
Are you sure that you are using F2L?
(F2L as in: placing corner and edge at the same time)
(F2L as in: placing corner and edge at the same time)
cubernya
Premium Member
Yeah...you should aim for 7 moves on cross (you'll rarely get an 8 move cross) and 7-8 moves per slot. This will give you 35-39, which is ideal.
Yes, 100% certain.
cubernya
Premium Member
Still waiting on that example solve video, by the way. Even if you can't do a video, type it out
Check the OP.
Rpotts
Veteran
I'm pretty sure you are executing the B turns in the scramble as B'
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