Let WCA allow the Dayan color cubes

[Michael Womack]

We are saying colored cubes offer an advantage that stickered cubes cannot. They made it illegal for a reason.

how is there an advantage but if your going the same speed as Feliks then you will have like .10 seconds to see the split pieces colors

 

[Goosly]

how is there an advantage but if your going the same speed as Feliks then you will have like .10 seconds to see the split pieces colors

qqwref already explained the advantage.

 

[RNewms27]

how is there an advantage but if your going the same speed as Feliks then you will have like .10 seconds to see the split pieces colors

The reason he turns fast is because he CAN see the colors. And anybody slower than him just has to do half a U turn to see almost every piece.

 

[bobthegiraffemonkey]

I actually agree with the OP here, but not for the stated reasons. I fail to see how people can get an advantage by seeing the extra stuff, if everyone else would be allowed to use the same type of cube too. If it's legal for all cubers, nobody has an unfair advantage, and I think it's just silly that they were illegal to start with.

 

[Michael Womack]

I actually agree with the OP here, but not for the stated reasons. I fail to see how people can get an advantage by seeing the extra stuff, if everyone else would be allowed to use the same type of cube too. If it's legal for all cubers, nobody has an unfair advantage, and I think it's just silly that they were illegal to start with.

agree with you and as what qqwref said i don't think that many people would tun a side 45 degrees just for look ahead

 

[BlueDevil]

I actually agree with the OP here, but not for the stated reasons. I fail to see how people can get an advantage by seeing the extra stuff, if everyone else would be allowed to use the same type of cube too. If it's legal for all cubers, nobody has an unfair advantage, and I think it's just silly that they were illegal to start with.

But then they have to make many more regulations on what inner piece color schemes are allowed to look like. It's just more complicated for them.

Michael is just mad because he worked hard on a competition illegal cube, nothing more. If people really hate cubes with stickers or tiles, just get one with painted colors that is competition legal. There really is no reason to switch because everything is fine the way it is.

 

[Michael Womack]

They should allow stickerless cubes. Sure, they DO offer and advantage but anyone still has the option to either use them or not. Has anyone though that these cubes might actually be pushing speedsolving forward by allowing faster recognition and probably new solving styles/techniques?

i know and im agreeing with you its like how dayanshing and some other brands ave the stickers panted on so thay last longer

 

[irontwig]

It looks like you don't understand why they don't allow those cubes.

The reason is that, when you turn one face by 45 degrees (half of a normal quarter turn), you can see the colors of some stickers you shouldn't be able to see. For example, if you turn the top face by 45 degrees, you can see the BR and BL stickers. The WCA has decided that this is an unfair advantage for lookahead, and so these cubes aren't allowed.

Who cares? It's obviously a ridiculous reason. Even if it would be an advantage, what would the problem be? It would just be the same thing as when a higher quality puzzle comes out; people who care enough would buy it and start using it instead.

 

[BlueDevil]

But then records could not compare to old ones. It would have to be a new event or something. The logistics of it require too much from the WCA. Just give it up and follow the current rules.

I ask people who approve of colored cubes for lookahead: do you support use of steroids in baseball? because it's a similar concept. Sure, everyone can use it, but is it really the right thing to have allowed?

 

[insane569]

i know and im agreeing with you its like how dayanshing and some other brands ave the stickers panted on so thay last longer

im sorry i cant understand whay your saying
but its not gonna happen even if you get all these votes(which you wont even hit 200 all together)
just get another cube and mod it stop complaining about the rules

 

[Michael Womack]

im sorry i cant understand whay your saying
but its not gonna happen even if you get all these votes(which you wont even hit 200 all together)
just get another cube and mod it stop complaining about the rules

its like how the allow different size cubes so why not the Dayan colored ones the the same as the stickered ones

 

[cuberkid10]

i know and im agreeing with you its like how dayanshing and some other brands ave the stickers panted on so thay last longer

That offers no advantage

 

[Nestor]

I ask people who approve of colored cubes for lookahead: do you support use of steroids in baseball? because it's a similar concept. Sure, everyone can use it, but is it really the right thing to have allowed?

We are talking about hardware here, not performance enhancing drugs. The fairness lies in that anyone can use the hardware they wish to. Also using baseball as an analogy, it would be like banning spikes on the shoes because they provide more grip (when they first came out).

 

[Michael Womack]

That offers no advantage

why and what is it?

 

[Michael Womack]

We are talking about hardware here, not performance enhancing drugs. The fairness lies in that anyone can use the hardware they wish to. Also using baseball as an analogy, it would be like banning spikes on the shoes because they provide more grip (when they first came out).

I agree with that statement.

 

[insane569]

its like how the allow different size cubes so why not the Dayan colored ones the the same as the stickered ones

the size has nothing to do with it cause you gain no advantages from it unless its OH

 

[ben1996123]

no.

 

[cuberkid10]

why and what is it?

Painted dianshengs. The painted stickers offer no performance enhancement, so it's an invalid arguement.

 

[deathbypapercutz]

look here dose it look like i spend that much on cubes

yes

 

[antoineccantin]

I think he left speedsolving along time ago.

I don't think so: http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/search.php?searchid=308186